MARCH 7: Negotiations continued deep into Monday night, Garafolo notes, but nothing is currently considered imminent (Twitter link). As is the case with the Ravens and Lamar Jackson, talks could come right down to the 3pm CT deadline for a resolution. Adding further to the continued uncertainty, ESPN’s Dianna Russini tweets that it is “50-50” whether or not a multi-year deal gets over the finish line in time between the Giants and Jones. She adds that talks with Barkley have “stalled,” pointing further to him reaching free agency if New York is forced to tag Jones.
MARCH 6: One major domino has fallen with respect to the 2023 QB market already, but plenty of attention remains focused on the Giants and Daniel Jones. Talks at the Combine didn’t result in a contract being finalized, but a breakthrough could still be possible in the very near future.
Less than 24 hours remain until the franchise tag deadline, meaning the Giants continue to face pressure to ink Jones to a multi-year deal (and by doing so, give themselves the option of using the franchise tag on running back Saquon Barkley). Failing that, Jones will receive the tag to lengthen the negotiating window for both sides, but also ensure that he will be in New York for at least the 2023 campaign.
Jones’ decision to change agents and subsequent increase in contract demands has dominated the storyline in this situation. His asking price (roughly $45MM-per-year) is not believed to be a point to which the Giants are willing to go, though, and the 25-year-old’s performances through 2021 made it an easy decision for the team’s previous regime to decline his fifth-year option. That has left the two parties at something of an impasse, though optimism was said to exist following the weekend’s negotiations.
On that point, NFL Network’s Mike Garafolo reports (via Twitter) that Jones’ representatives have travelled to New Jersey today to continue talks in person with the Giants. That will at least keep open the possibility of a deal being finalized at the eleventh hour. The framework of a possible contract will still likely be heftier than what the team had been hoping for, though.
In an update on where things stand as of the weekend, ESPN’s Jeremy Fowler and Dan Graziano report that Jones’ deal could be four years in length and carry a value of over $160MM. That would be very similar to the one which Derek Carr signed with the Saints earlier today, though a number of differences exist in the two passers’ respective situations. Jones doesn’t have the pedigree of Carr, a four-time Pro Bowler, but the Duke alum is six years younger and took a significant step forward in play last year, the first with Brian Daboll in place as head coach.
Fowler notes that many around the league have been surprised by the degree to which the Giants remain “comfortable” in giving Jones a major second contract. They still have the franchise tag option (which would cost $32.4MM) as a failsafe, of course, but using it would allow Barkley to hit free agency as the top RB on the market. Whether today’s talks produced any progress will go a long way in determining the Giants’ next moves in the coming days.
Wouldn’t you rather have Garoppolo over Jones anyway?
YES the man of glass who can’t finish a season is a great choice
What has Jones done in 4 years? about 50/50 in picks to turnover ratio. Pay him a ton? I’d rather let him walk and grab a rookie.
“YES the man of glass”
Jones missed multiple games for injuries in his first three seasons and missed one game last year. Plus, he runs the ball a lot and takes some big hits.
“Missed one game last year” = Week 18 when the Giants were locked into the NFC #6 seed and rested regulars.
No way
Jimmy G’s and Danny Dimes skillsets and on field abilities couldn’t be more different…..As painful as it potentially might bode, signing Jones for a ridiculous (based on accomplishments to date) $45 million would force Saquan to leave via free agency….so they’d be back to a RB by committee which given their crew wouldn’t work very well….so by being greedy, Jones potentially forces the team offensively to a completely different type of offense…and running QB’s tend not to have a long shelf life in the NFL…. and further sign him long term and have him fall on his face dooms the franchise and negates the fan feel good of this past season….
I cannot imagine any nfl team willing to give Jones 30 million on the open market, I would just move on, Daboll is gonna make the Giants quarterback solid regardless of who it is, is Jones even good without Daboll?
Agree. If these reports are true, the numbers being thrown around for a one-year wonder (who really wasn’t that spectacular) are insane.
I’d agree but then you see a 31 yr old who previously was essentially a career backup sign for 35 aav. Geno could be the next Foles.
and Carr just signed for what 37 mil? its insane, and they said he now ranks 9th i think. so is Jones top 10 qb right now? thats the question
Pay him low $$$ lose in the playoffs, pay him ridiculous $$$ and lose in the playoffs if they are LUCKY TO GET THERE. What joke. They will regret this after the first year.
Atlanta might! They have plenty of cap space and would market the hell out of his Duke roots in the south……
Atlanta i think is going hard at Lamar per recent reports.
Jones and Giants are trying to out idiot one another.
I’d go with Jimmy G and a decent backup. Time to start playing hardball with these mediocre QBs who think they deserve to be paid like MVPs.
“You about to lose your job…”
NY Giants knows that he not worth $45 mill a season, not a top QB currently in NFL..
It laughable that he wants that
wouldn’t you ask for top dollar if you had leverage? you can always negotiate down but good luck trying to go up.
If you are going to waste $45 million on a QB you might as well make a deal for Rodgers or Jackson – as you’ll go farther than this tool will take you.
Jones is worth 250,000 for 1 year as an XFL QB
With the recent contracts of both Carr (AAV $37mm) and now Geno Smith (AAV $35mm), there is NO WAY Jones deserves $10mm more per year. I think the NFL needs to start readjusting these outrageous QB contracts to something more manageable for the rest of the team. If Jones gets what he wants at $45-$48mm AAV, he will be slotted just behind Rogers at $50mm and Mahomes. Does this make any sense to anyone? Jones should be slotted in that $35-$37mm range, no higher.
Can’t adjust “these outrageous QB contracts” unless you reopen the union contract. The NFLPA negotiated to have the QB position carry the highest amount on the franchise tag.
That would be collusion and that has never worked well.
The AAV might be less of an issue than length and guaranteed money.
Geno has a first year hit of $57 million.
If he signs for 40 million this will strap the Giants cap, therefore he won’t get the players he needs. For that much money he better produce and stay healthy or he will get BOOD right out of NY.
As a Giants fan, I’m still hoping they just Tag Barkley at this point and swing a deal for Lamar or give up the picks to go get one of these stud QB’s. Gamble, YES but better and cheaper than paying Danny Dines much more than he’s worth. Some will say that’s the QB market but to give him a Gino Smith type deal would be crazy. The team’s gotten increasingly better so the next few years their #1’s should be in the high teens to mid 20’s. I don’t see them regressing back to a non playoff contender.
Play a rookie QB and watch them regress. Jones is worth at the very least Kirk Cousin money, and he is way younger. Cope.
New York Giants management please do not spend 40 million on Daniel Jones
Jimmy Garoppolo would make Giants a much better team. If he gets hurt he gets hurt but the up side is way higher