Lamar Jackson has set Week 1 as a deadline for his latest round of extension talks with the Ravens. If this is indeed a hard deadline, the Ravens are running out of time to avoid this situation dragging to a 2023 franchise tag.
The team is believed to have increased its offer to Jackson, Josina Anderson of CBS Sports tweets. Baltimore will not do a fully guaranteed deal, despite Cleveland’s Deshaun Watson agreement, Anderson adds. This has long been the expectation, even though Jackson has been connected to seeking a contract containing more than the whopping $230MM guaranteed the Browns gave Watson.
Since Watson’s March extension agreement, the Broncos and Cardinals have extended their passers on deals worth more — in terms of AAV — than Watson’s $46MM. But neither Russell Wilson nor Kyler Murray secured close to the guaranteed money Watson did. Teams are treating that Browns contract like an outlier, one dictated by unique circumstances. If the Ravens are going to sign Jackson this week, they will likely be forced to authorize an extension that includes more than the $124MM fully guaranteed Wilson received. Probably a lot more.
The Ravens have been negotiating with Jackson since the 2021 offseason, when he first became eligible for a new deal. Those 2021 talks are believed to have included an offer worth more than Josh Allen‘s $43MM-per-year accord. This year, the team has been connected to an offer that exceeds Murray’s $46.1MM AAV. Nothing has come out regarding guarantees, though a Jackson tweet revealed the team’s expected reluctance to offer a fully guaranteed contract.
Jackson, 25, continues to operate without an agent. That has complicated this lengthy process. The former MVP negotiated in-season with the Ravens in 2021. If he is truly prepared to shut down talks this year, the next few days represent a pivotal stretch.
The former Heisman winner could continue to bet on himself, taking the risk of either an injury or a decline in play — Jackson’s QBR figures have fallen from first (2019) to eighth (2020) to 17th (’21) — dropping his value. But another entirely plausible scenario exists in which Jackson’s price rises again in 2022. The salary cap will continue to climb, and the threat of an exclusive 2023 tag putting upwards of $40MM on Baltimore’s cap sheet — which would hinder the team in free agency — would apply more pressure on the organization.
Dak Prescott‘s season-ending ankle injury did not limit him in his 2021 negotiations with the Cowboys, which involved the threat of a second tag clogging Dallas’ payroll. The Ravens also have a history of a quarterback betting on himself and winning. Joe Flacco did not sign a Ravens extension in 2012, going on to put together a strong playoff run that led the team to its second Super Bowl championship. The Ravens made Flacco the league’s first $20MM-AAV player — via a six-year, $120.6MM deal — before free agency in 2013. Times have changed on the QB market, with Aaron Rodgers — who topped Flacco’s deal soon after it was agreed to nine years ago — topping the current market at $50.3MM per year.
Flacco’s Baltimore successor remains tied to his $23MM fifth-year option salary. Jackson’s age, importance to the Ravens, and the cap’s renewed growth raise the stakes for the team. The run-oriented QB joining Rodgers in the $50MM-per-year club should not be ruled out. Will the team go there this week?
He’s just not worth it. Not going to age well with his style of play and he’s never going to be a prolific pocket passer when his speed goes.
People want to point to Vick and Cunningham BUT the reason why they had long and became successful is because they learned how to play in an actual NFL style offense and become a passer. Your job as a QB is to pass the ball to your other players. It isn’t to BE the offense. This is like having a point guard who never passes and just takes the ball all the time. Sure, he may score 60 points, but your team loses all the time and other good players don’t want to come to your team because they know they won’t get the ball.
Mark Andrews loves him. You just don’t like him because you’re Brownsbacker9 and you’re a Browns fan. You don’t think that if Jackson couldn’t throw the ball, that NFL teams wouldn’t have figured that out and just sold out to the run? He’s 37-12. The Ravens with all their injuries were 8-3 when he got hurt and finished 8-9. Enough said. Some just hate my man Lamar. Oh yeah, I’m not giving up my username. You stealing usernames isn’t going to work on me Brownsbacker9 or Dope Brownies Bruh or whatever other name you stole.
That’s because he only passed the ball to Mark. Of course he’d love him. But no real #1 WR will come to Baltimore and the only one he had left because they don’t get him the ball.
Teams did figure out he can’t pass, that’s why he doesn’t win in the playoffs and teams that stop him from running around beat him all the time.
Regular season wins don’t matter if you can’t win in the playoffs.
I never changed my handle. I was never Brownsbacker9, I was never Dope Brownies, and my name always had a lowercase “p” in it, unlike yours. You posted just recently AGAIN as Dope Brownies and you changed your handle back to this AGAIN. Just who do you think you are fooling?
You also recently posted defending Watson and the Cleveland Browns YET AGAIN, something I have NEVER done.
“Your job as a QB is to pass the ball”? Last year Baltimore whupped the Chargers just by running the ball all day. Real football fans appreciate a good ground game.
Where’d that get them?
Yes yes we all know that. The question is will he win a super bowl or two in the next 5 years. And what would the team be willing to pay for that? Would you pay $200m guaranteed for 2 Super Bowls?
Not concerned with long term health, but short term winning.
I don’t think you win the big one with this style of offense that was designed around him.
Why tf would you pay this guy more than Josh Allen
Allen signed his contract too early. Sometimes you win and Sometimes you lose. Allen lost. Mayfield would have won if he’d taken a deal after 2020.
And here we go again, trying to pretend to be somebody you aren’t. Brownsbacker, your act is getting really old. Just give it up. Nobody believes you anymore.
Guys who sign later sign bigger. Kyler got more than Allen, too.
He is better than Josh Allen.
Hahahaha… no.. he isn’t
Nice re-post of a previous article.
“Teams are treating that Browns contract like an outlier, one dictated by unique circumstances.”
That’s a nice way of saying; the Browns actions pissed off the league with their ridiculous Watson contract. It’s a terrible precedent on many levels.
Absolutely, and just because one team did something incredibly stupid doesn’t mean the rest of the teams should follow suit.
Other owners probably shouldn’t follow suit but they always have doubled down on these stupid decisions in the past. I remember when Joe Namath got a $400,000 contract that was called an “outlier”.
I didn’t say it wouldn’t happen, because once one person gets a stupid contract, everyone else will point to that and say, “Well, this guy got this, and I am better than he is.”
And if somebody is stupid enough to pay you that kind of money, you take it and run with it.
Ironically, the owners had to create a salary cap to protect themselves from their own stupidity…but even that has limited effectiveness.
That’s not what the salary cap is for. It is to prevent what happened in MLB where the teams with the biggest market buy themselves the best teams simply because they can afford to pay everyone anything they want. When the Yankees had a payroll that was more than twice what most of the other teams could afford. It was done for sake of parity.
Lamar deserves maybe top 10 money at best. All top 5 QBs have more then 1,500 passing yards more than Lamar.
Citing total passing yards alone is silly, especially for a single season.
1) Jackson missed five games last year. Of course his raw totals will be lower. He also had the most injured team in football.
2) It ignores Jackson’s rushing ability and production, which facilitates the rest of the run game and makes the backs and lines look better.
3) The top 5 in passing yards includes guys (Herbert and Carr) who played with two of the seven worst defenses in points allowed, meaning they had to pass more. Of course they’d rack up big passing totals (the top 11 in passing also includes Ryan and Cousins for the same reason).
He did not have the most injured team in football. Every team suffers through tons of injuries every year. Staying healthy and being able to stay on the field is extremely important.
If you want to include what Lamar’s running adds to the team, you have to include what it takes away with his fumbles and turning the ball over.
They are top 5 in passing because they CAN pass the ball that much, not because they have to. Lamar could pass that much, but wouldn’t be nearly as effective because he’s a poor passer and makes bad decisions.
Also to note, the Ravens defense hasn’t been as dominate as back in the day, especially due to injuries. They run the ball way more than almost every other team because they have to, because they can’t pass the ball.
They were absolutely the most injured team in football last year, and not just subject to the normal amount of team injuries. Football Outsiders’ adjusted games lost metric in fact had them as the most injured team in years.
And it’s not like Jackson fumbles dramatically more than all the good QBs.
He is up near the tops in fumbles, combine that with his picks, and his lack of passing production, and there is why you don’t win big games.
There were a lot of teams that had major injuries last year and a lot of them. Stop acting like the Ravens are the only team that suffers a lot of injuries. Joe Flacco had strings of the them having nearly half of the original roster being on IR in back to back seasons and nobody used that as a defense of his lack of production, even though they only had one losing season under him as the starter.
In 2020, he was 20th in interceptions. In 2019, he was tied for 23rd. Last year, he lost both starting tackles and top two running backs.
And again, no team last year was as injured as the Ravens. No team Flacco ever played for was as injured as last year’s Ravens. I’m not saying they’re the only team that suffers them. I’m saying they suffered the most, because they did.
Incorrect, the New York Giants had the most players on IR in 2021. What you are referring to is a subjective opinion on the impact of the players lost, not necessarily how many players were injured but WHO was injured and their projected value or contribution to the team.
Under the Flacco era, the Ravens actually led the league in players on IR twice, and I believe it was in back to back seasons, with over 20 players on IR and the second season I believe it was nearly 20, I think it was 19. Nobody who was bashing Flacco at the time accepted that as an excuse. They blamed Flacco.
Also, despite missing part of the season and being one of the lowest in attempts, he was tied for 9th in the league in interceptions.
If you look at something like the Football Outsiders adjusted games lost metric, it takes into account who those players actually are. How many of those Giants players on IR are players who were actually expected to start, let alone be good or play important positions? Go ahead and take a look. It’s not comparable to the Ravens losing their left tackle, their first round receiver, their top two running backs, or two top corners, among others.
It is subjective. Objectively, they were not the most injured team. You don’t know what kind of performances these players would have had if they actually played. You don’t know, you can only speculate.
Lol, it’s not subjective to say that losing your starting left tackle is more significant than losing literally any player the Giants lost. You could look into AGL if you want to see their methodology. Even if you do raw games lost, the Ravens were up top with the Giants.
It is absolutely subjective because you don’t know how any of those players would have ACTUALLY performed if they played. You can only speculate on it based on past performance.
Did the Giants lose any valuable players, or do you think they just lost practice squad players?
You can try to keep arguing the point all you want, you’re not going to convince me with the excuse of injuries being the reason why Lamar is not a poor QB. He absolutely is a poor passing QB. You are free to disagree with me all you like on that point as well. The fact of the matter is that he’s not been the same level of player since his MVP season and he’s gotten worse each year since then.
No top flight WR wants to come play with him (and if you want to argue about the system, well, this is the system specifically designed FOR HIM to succeed) and the one he did had wanted to and did leave.
They run a lot more because they have to for this system to work. Teams are catching on.
Well, we’ll see then. The injury thing I’ve said my piece on. You can die on whatever hill you want to. If you are who I think you are, I know what hill you’ll die on. I wouldn’t be surprised at all if Baltimore takes the division this year. If they have better injury luck and Cincinnati’s defense and/or injury luck regress a little, I think they will.
Sure, they’ll win probably double digit games or close to it if the injury bug doesn’t bite them, just like they did under Flacco.
The question remains what will they do if they get to the playoffs.
The hill I am willing to die on for now, no matter who you think I am, is that Lamar Jackson is just not a good passer, and based on THAT ALONE, will limit how far this team can actually go. Until he shows progression as a passer, his game will always be limited to what he can do with his legs, and as he ages and loses that half step he currently has on other players, that too will severely affect his level of success going forward.
All of the previously great running QBs in the league have either learned to adapt their game and become better passers to extend/improve their careers, or they faded away due to the league catching up to them and them not being able to adapt, or they get career ending injuries.
If you play like a RB at the QB position, you will age like a RB.
OK. I think he’s already shown progress as a passer and would bet on him to show more. I also don’t think he’s innately more of an injury risk than the two QBs in his division with ACL tears and playing styles that get them sacked a ton.
He shows progress by being statistically worse each year removed from his MVP season?
He is more of an injury risk if he keeps running 100 times a year. Even if he doesn’t suffer a major injury, it is the accumulated wear and tear.
Them getting sacked a ton, Lamar got sacked a ton too, but that was blamed on his OL. So is it the other QB’s O-lines not doing well, or is it also Lamar’s playing style that gets him sacked a lot too?
This is the problem with people that brings arguments like you do. You want one side of it and ignore the other side. You can’t claim the success of a player while ignoring the downside and then try to pass that off on other factors. He’s either solely responsible for EVERYTHING, or he isn’t. Which one of those do you want?
Jackson doesn’t get sacked nearly as frequently as those guys do. For their careers:
Jackson 3283 snaps, 106 sacks
Burrow 1716 snaps, 83 sacks
Watson 3532 snaps, 155 sacks
He’s more in line with:
Josh Allen 3903 snaps, 118 sacks, and also rushes 100 times a year (though not as much as Jackson does).
You completely avoided the question I see.
Lamar Jackson got sacked 38 times last year, Burrow 51. But Burrow actually played 16 games and had 520 attempts compared to Jackson’s 382. Jackson got sacked at a higher percentage, meaning if the trends continued for the whole season, Lamar would have been sacked more times total.
So again, is that on a porous OL, or play style?
Please try to actually focus on the actual question and stay on topic instead of strawing a different argument that doesn’t have anything to do with the question being asked.
Lamar lost several key pieces from his blocking last season and took a dramatic leap in sack rate–the first time he’s had a sack percentage over 7.2 since his rookie season–suggesting it would be unwise to chalk it all up to his play style. As opposed to Watson, who’s had a sack percentage over 8 every single season he’s played.
You base it on snaps. It needs to be based on pass attempts. Then base that on percentage like I did so you can level the field for Lamar’s extreme lack of passing attempts which would severely reduce his total number of sacks on a season.
So great, you want to chalk this up to poor O-line play. How good was the O-line protecting Burrow? How good was Watson’s O-line?
Again, you avoided the question. I asked you about Burrow and Jackson, and you bring up Watson.
So you avoided answering the question directly, but indirectly answered it. If you have a bad O-line, you’re going to get sacked a bunch of times no matter how you play the QB position.
You’re leaving out the part where a QB’s play style can hang the O-line out to dry or make them look better. Jackson takes pressure off a line. Burrow puts pressure on a line. Burrow absolutely had a line lacking in talent, but that doesn’t mean he wasn’t part of the problem too.
So maybe Lamar was part of the problem last year, too and his play style didn’t help take pressure off his unskilled O-line, as evidenced by the data I already showed you.
OK. Could be. Also could be losing most of his O-line and the running backs who actually knew how to pass protect in the system. We’ll see. Have a good one.
So having bad blockers leads to your QB getting sacked a lot. I would think this would be pretty common knowledge to most people. It is no secret that the Bengals had one of the worst, if not the worst offensive lines last year which is why they replaced 3/5 of the starting unit with free agents for 2022.
And Jackson’s sack rate will go down more from last year than Burrow’s will because Burrow’s sack problems are more built into his play style than Jackson’s. There’s my prediction, so you can stop ping ponging.
We’ll see. I would suspect that both of their sack rates should go down if their lines stay healthy because both made significant changes and Lamar should have Stanley back who is one of the best pass protectors in the game when he’s healthy.
Lamar has had the benefit of a great line through most of his career so far, while Burrow hasn’t.
The only one that is ping ponging around here is you, balls of fury.
Not every reference is a joke, brownsbacker.
You got the wrong one, this isn’t brownsbacker, that’s the other doofus who supports Deshaun Watson and has changed his name 3 or 4 times already.
Naw, it’s you. No one else on here dies on more anthills than you do, browns boy.
I don’t back the Browns. Take a look at what I’ve said about Watson and the Browns and then tell me if that sounds anything remotely close to what Brownsbacker would ever say? Are you really that dense?
Brownsbacker is the other guy parading around with this copy of a handle, who changed his name from Brownsbacker9, to something about walking with Jesus, to DopeBrownies, then No Politics, and now he got smart and made his name again with a lowercase “p”.
It is easy, just check the post histories. He’ll post again with a new handle soon. Just stay tuned.
Look, we found Brownsbacker9! Take a look people, this dude always liked his own posts and was the only likes he ever got on any of his posts.
Wait what! Lol
Pay Him!
Nothing to see here. Ravens are happy to have Lamar. Lamar is happy to be a Raven. Both are focused on winning a SB. Lamar is Baltimore’s best QB option to make this happen.
In regards to the contract hub bub brought on by the press, is there a smoking gun angle? Something is odd here. All the other franchise type QBs are getting their big deals but not Lamar. Why? Is there a private issue between the 2 parties that is, well, private? Like an unreported injury that is chronic and will only worsen over time. This prevents, and mutually understood, a long term contract arrangement thus creating a yearly pay review/offer focused on health.
The simplistic short game O the Ravens seem to be going with is in place so that if Lamar has to go DL, the Ravens have confidence that Huntley, or whomever, can keep the team competitive until Lamar returns?
If the Ravens wanted him, he’d already be signed. They don’t dilly-dally with the people they actually want. Look at all the big contracts they’ve handed out to guys already.
The only time they play like this is when the person they are negotiating with wants more money than they are willing to spend, just like they did with Ray Lewis when he was in his 30’s and asking for crazy money. The Ravens told this guy, who was the symbol of everything Ravens, to go kick sand and see if anyone else was crazy enough to pay him that money. Nobody else would. He came back to the Ravens for FAR less than his original asking price.
Lamar has far more value to Baltimore than anywhere else. Why? Because he runs a specialty offense that has already been built around him here in Baltimore. Any other team that would sign him would have to either adopt this style, or hope to heck he can learn their style. You would have to completely build up a team around him again and that wouldn’t take just one off season to do. He’s not a plug and play QB where you just tweak some things and he can get up to speed on your terminology.
The Ravens clearly have a price point in mind. If he expects more and some other team is willing, let them eat that contract.
@no politics; hey there, hope all is well!
Thanks for the Ray Lewis back story. Your point is valid. I’m gonna chew on that for a bit.
In regards to their offense, it looks pretty plain to me. Don’t see it as a speciality O this year as in recent years past that catered to Lamar’s physical athletic gifts. Why? In their analysis, it doesn’t win SBs. Short quick play strategy looks to be the plan to me. None of this rolling out extension stuff and very little down field action; both taking time to develop. I could be wrong, of course, but that’s what I’m seeing. Regards
All is well and thanks, hope the same for you.
The Ray Lewis information is correct. It was in his 2009 free agency when he was 33/34. The Ravens told him to look around for the deal he was asking for from the Ravens and I believe Dallas was the only one sniffing around, but not for nearly the kind of money he was asking for. He came back to the Ravens for the contract that would make him a Raven for life for a rather significant reduction in asking price. He was seeking a $25 million signing bonus and a $30 million contract over 3 years. He ultimately signed for $20 million for 3 years and according to one source the signing bonus was about $6.25M.
As for the offense, I think it will be virtually the same RPO style we’ve already seen. The rollouts might be reduced because I don’t see the outside threats being there. But it will be run heavy, playaction heavy, and feature the TE’s. I didn’t think the offense was revolutionary at all. This style has been done before, the only thing revolutionary was Lamar’s exceptional talent at running the ball. I think they were hoping for him to be more of a dual threat then he’s shown so far.
@no politics; as always, great stuff.
Woah. Ray Ray got a reality check there for sure. Gulp!
And whatever the specifics are with “moving the ball” may they be fruitful.
Hey, I was kind of hoping to see more passing to the RBs this year; especially to a hopefully 100% healthy Dobbins. You gotta take here?
I think that move is in the plans and why there were keeping Badie around. Now they have Drake to sort of help fill in that role and maybe help in the return game now that they want to rely on Duvernay more as a receiver. Mike Davis is sort of an all around back that can catch the ball too.
I don’t think they have much of a choice. They invested nearly nothing in the WR department and are counting on a bunch of unproven guys to step up and another guy who was like the 6th option for the Raiders and couldn’t keep his job there.
At the start of the year I think they keep things pretty much on script with the ground game, Lamar will run but maybe not as much as he has before if possible, and the short to mid level passing game to TE first, then the short receiver read, then the RB last option. Depends on the design of the play. As things move on and they have time to practice it more, they might try opening up things deep if any of the receivers prove they can get open down field.
Davis can catch. I like it. And yes, agreed, TE is priority here. RBs catching balls is a healthy add on only. Here we go! Cheers.
Lamar Jackson needs an agent. For all that he has accomplished during his 4 year career he should have way more then 2 endorsement deals.
His games per year, fumble percentage, sacks per year, interceptions, and INT percentage are all stats headed in the wrong direction. The D-Cord do understand that mid-level to deep passes are not in his comfort zone. Lamar is marketable, sells jerseys, and tickets. An agent would have tied up a contract that sounds like the greatest ever signed but has protection for the team.
It’ll be interesting to see how Lamar does this year as a bigger, heavier version of himself in an offense that has completely forsake the WR position and doubled down on the TE position in the draft, though one is already lost due to injury.
Teams have to know the plan. They will run. They will pass to their TE’s over the middle and not too deep. You blanket those guys and cover the run with Lamar and force him to pass deep to unproven WR’s.
He is probably the best I’ve ever seen as a QB with the ball in his hands as a runner. He might even stack up there with the best elusive running backs to play the game. His passing game is the problem and as you stated, rightfully so, it has degraded every season since the MVP. He has regressed rather than progressed.
From a marketing aspect…he’s not the most eloquent of speakers, and he’s got a look that is rather unique. He might sell jerseys in Baltimore, but this is a small market.
The defense is not allowed to hit anymore, and Lamar might be the best you have ever seen mobile QB. If this is the case, please stop trying to be the expert. Just a thought of some tape you should research: Fran Tarkenton, Kordell “Slash” Stewart, and Donovan McNabb. Randall Cuningham doesn’t count since no one on D could actually hit him. Steve Young is in the H.O.F. because of his feet and Michael Vick will now never get his…
As far as marketing is concerned even Presidents have public address teams. Michael Vick, Emmit Smith, Bo Jackson, and most recently Lane Johnson all have openly talked about receiving help for public appearances. The NFLPA even has a list of agencies that assist with issues of this nature.
I didn’t say the best ever MOBILE QB. I said best runner with the ball in his hands. I would actually mention Dan Marino in that company even though he ran about as fast as a brick wall.
Tarkententon was not a runner like Lamar, not even close. Kordell not in the same league either. The only one close is Vick as a runner, and I think Lamar even has him beat because I think Lamar is faster, and is stronger than Vick was.
I’m not trying to be anything. I am just speaking facts. You have to understand what I am saying before you actually criticize it. You completely made up an argument I didn’t make, and then tried to attack me for it? How does that make sense?
Steve Young is not in the HOF because of his feet. He could actually throw the ball and he just happened to play for one of the best teams in his era that was loaded with weapons. Young is nowhere near the runner Lamar is. It isn’t even close.
As far as the agencies go, sure, they could help him, but they can’t speak for him.
Just to add on, he had to curtail his running ways and what ultimately ended his career was severe concussions he got due to him getting drilled while running.
“I said best runner with the ball in his hands.”
Lamar Jackson is not even close to Barry Sander’s, Walter Payton, Eric Dickerson, Marshal Faulk, Earl Cambell, Mr. Brown, Ernie Davis, or Gale Sayers. $H!T half of those guys still have better moves then Lamar today.
“Tarkententon was not a runner like Lamar, not even close. Kordell not in the same league either.” — You are a dolt.
Steve Young is known for a lot of great runs, not a lot of great passes. Just an FYI, Steve Young was the original Lamar Jackson. Only Steve Young had an agent, so he was the “Multi-Functional QB” that would “Change the position” it’s all in the story … Lamar is setting contract cut off dates.
“Probably the best runner I’ve seen as a QB with the ball in his hands. Might even stack up there with the best elusive running backs.”
That was my comment, and of course you are going to attack me with “best mobile” and with power runners at the RB position because, again, you don’t understand what you read.
Tarkenton was a scrambler, not a runner. He used his legs to extend passing plays, not to run down the field by design.
I wouldn’t compare Lamar to any of the big bulldozer backs like Jim Brown or Earl Campbell, both of whom retired early due to the damage they received specifically for the way they ran.
Dickerson never had the moves Lamar has. Walter Payton I believe personally, is the ideal running back. He had everything. Size, speed, power, moves, and hands. He did everything exceptionally well.
Barry Sanders is probably the most elusive running back ever. I’d agree he’s got better natural moves than Lamar. Part of what makes Lamar elusive is his sheer speed, which Barry didn’t have. Barry was fast, but not as fast as Lamar.
Sayers was silky smooth but he had a very brief window of superior play, even when he was healthy.
Kordell Stewart was not the same kind of runner as Lamar. You can call me stupid all you like, but nobody would agree with you that Kordell was better than Lamar is.
Steve Young may be known for some great runs, but in his best year carrying the football, he got about half as many yards as Lamar did Young was one of the most prolific passers of all time when it comes to QB rating and comp% I am pretty sure. He was a prolific PASSER and THAT is what got him to the HOF.
Michael Vick was the original Lamar Jackson. Young isn’t even in Vick’s or Cunningham’s class as a runner. If you don’t think Cunningham counts, well then Young can’t either as they played in the same era.
Try to do a little research before you come at me.
“Try to do a little research before you come at me.”
I will take your advice under consideration if I was to choose to attack.
You already have. You come off half cocked and ill informed, which is even worse.
Jackson will never win a Super Bowl in today’s NFL. If you can’t bring your team back from 4th quarter deficit you aren’t winning anything. Remember the playoff-defining duel between Mahomes and Allen? You will never see that from Lamar…
Food for thought and only to further illustrate what I’ve said about Lamar and games that matter. I am going to give out two sets of data. The first set of data will be from regular season games, and the second set will be from playoff games:
W/L: 37-12
Comp%: 64%
TD/INT: 84/31
RAT: 98.1
W/L: 1-3
Comp%: 55.9%
TD/INT: 3/5
RAT: 68.3
He also fumbled 5 times in those 4 games.
Much smaller sample size, and against better competition, under more pressure. Not enough to label him as a playoff choker. If Ravens don’t pony up, I’m sure the Titans, or Eagles would love to.
Of course the sample size is going to be smaller because you obviously don’t play as many playoff games as you do regular season games. But, you hit the nail on the head.
More pressure, better competition, more time for teams to game plan and you have 5 games of evidence where he severely under performs. That’s a trend.
Let those other teams pony up and try to build an offense completely around him like the Ravens did.
Love to see the Ravens give up all of their cap space for one player lol.