One year ago, Mike Tomlin‘s future was a talking point. The Steelers had just lost in the wild-card round to the Bills, marking another one-and-done postseason for Pittsburgh. 
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The NFL’s longest-tenured head coach made he clear he intended to carry on in his current post, however, and in June his latest extension was in place. Tomlin is under contract through 2027 as a result, and owner Art Rooney II‘s most recent commitment appeared to put to rest doubts about a potential coaching change. In the wake of Tomlin’s postseason drought continuing for another year, though, questions have once again been raised about Pittsburgh making a move on the sidelines. To little surprise, that will likely not be the case.
The Steelers are expected to keep Tomlin in the fold, Gerry Dulac of the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette reports. Pittsburgh has been led by the 52-year-old since 2007, and in that time the team has never posted a record under .500. Tomlin won a Super Bowl in his second year at the helm and helped lead the Steelers back to the championship game in 2010. Things have taken a notable downturn over the past several years, however. Pittsburgh’s most recent playoff win came in 2016.
Rooney has remained consistent in his praise about Tomlin, whose tenure has produced 11 seasons with double-digit wins. The 2024 campaign appeared to offer considerable promise early on, with quarterback Justin Fields guiding the team to a 4-2 record before Russell Wilson returned to full health. Tomlin inserted the latter into the lineup, a move which was not unanimously backed by his staff. Wilson enjoyed several productive games at first, but toward the end of the campaign Pittsburgh’s offense struggled to score with or without top wideout George Pickens in the lineup. As Dulac notes, the Steelers’ five-game losing streak to close out the campaign included no more than 17 points being scored each time; the team had not managed that feat since 1969.
Dulac writes that changes of some kind being made along the staff could be forthcoming, but Tomlin’s influence on Pittsburgh’s defense in particular means continuity on that side of the ball will be notable provided he is retained. On offense, first-year coordinator Arthur Smith has drawn head coaching interest. He may be on the move shortly as a result, but in Tomlin’s case a 19th season at the helm is on tap.
There are few coaching staffs that take Rudolph, Pickett and co to the playoffs last year. Look how Russ did on the broncos and how they fared. 11-19 when he started. Broncos get a qb and they’re what 10-7? Mason Rudolph couldn’t hold the starting job on the worst team. The steelers need a qb, which is difficult to do. Steelers fans around 30 and younger have never had to look for a qb until now and don’t know what that’s like. Tomlin has his flaws, but this team just lacks talent imo. I just don’t see what getting rid of Tomlin does, other than create a full new headache of finding a coach. I don’t think it’s normal to have 3 coaches in 60 years or whatever it’s been, so it’s not like you just hire Ben Johnson and he’s the guy for the next 20 years. There’s a culture that the Rooneys have built that keeps this team from being brutal. I don’t want to end up like the colts after manning, the pats after Brady, etc. tough to get a qb drafting 17 or later every year but that’s not a Tomlin flaw. He needs to update his schemes, which a new/better OC can do. If he’s not willing to hire someone like that, then maybe I’d be more open to moving on. I hear nothing but praise from the players and other teams fans. Steelers fans like to blame him for everything. I’m rambling, but the constant “fire Tomlin” just doesn’t make sense to me.
With the logic you’re using here, I have to wonder if you work for the Steelers or simply lap up whatever national media is throwing at you
Look, I was a Tomlin supporter for many years. I kind of liked his character in press conferences and saw him as a motivator. But as in any endeavor, the character gets old after a while, the style becomes antiquated and the motivational pitch tends to get muffled
It says something that Aikman and Herbstreit both discussed ‘lack of fight, lethargy and playing like they don’t want to be here’ during the last two nationally televised games. The same ideas were put forward during the Chiefs game.
This team largely gave up, if not quit altogether
Your defense fails to note that it was Tomlin himself who largely put this team together. It’s Tomlin who brings on assistants who are largely yes-men. It’s Tomlin who is continually out-strategized and out-coached.
It’s time for Tomlin to go. But Rooney will make no changes
The offensive line is horrible.
It actually got worse as time went on
The receiving corps can’t get separation and has a guy in Pickens who simply isn’t worth the money given his attitude
Najee might do better in a place with some blocking
The D-line save for Cam gets no push and makes no tackles
Where have Watt and Minkah been? They tend to disappear
Is there a more overrated DB than Porter?
Let me state again: Tomlin built this roster.
He owns it. And he owns another late season collapse, this one involving players who gave up
That’s on Tomlin. Period. If you can’t motivate millionaires at this level anymore, get out of the way and allow some young coach with fire to do it.
Tomlin needs to go
Tomlin is not the GM. He owns who he has on his team and coaches. He is a damn good coach. Some fans are spoiled and don’t know what’s it’s like to have a mediocre/bad coach. He has a bad line, aging def and middle of pack QB(below pack the past few years) and still gets it done. Take Pickens and his WRs are terrible and Pickens is AB/all the other head are WRs they have but produces bc of Tomlin. Fix the roster bc the browns had a better roster just not coached well and are a hot mess. Fix the roster and stop blaming a coach that make it happen every year. Lmk who’s winning with Russ or fields at QB.. I’ll wait
With the logic you’re using here, I have to wonder if you work for the Steelers or simply lap up whatever national media is throwing at you
Look, I was a Tomlin supporter for many years. I kind of liked his character in press conferences and saw him as a motivator. But as in any endeavor, the character gets old after a while, the style becomes antiquated and the motivational pitch tends to get muffled
It says something that Aikman and Herbstreit both discussed ‘lack of fight, lethargy and playing like they don’t want to be here’ during the last two nationally televised games. The same ideas were put forward during the Chiefs game.
This team largely gave up, if not quit altogether
Your defense fails to note that it was Tomlin himself who largely put this team together. It’s Tomlin who brings on assistants who are largely yes-men. It’s Tomlin who is continually out-strategized and out-coached.
It’s time for Tomlin to go. But Rooney will make no changes
The offensive line is horrible.
It actually got worse as time went on
The receiving corps can’t get separation and has a guy in Pickens who simply isn’t worth the money given his attitude
Najee might do better in a place with some blocking
The D-line save for Cam gets no push and makes no tackles
Where have Watt and Minkah been? They tend to disappear
Is there a more overrated DB than Porter?
Let me state again: Tomlin built this roster.
He owns it. And he owns another late season collapse, this one involving players who gave up
That’s on Tomlin. Period. If you can’t motivate millionaires at this level anymore, get out of the way and allow some young coach with fire to do it.
Tomlin needs to go
There is so much turnover in the NFL I don’t think coaches messages become stale. If they fired Tomlin he would get snatched up by any number of teams looking for a coach. As far as I’m concerned he got the most out of the team he had. He won with Fields and Wilson at QB two guys I don’t consider in the top 15 QBs in the NFL at this point and that’s hard to win with in today’s game. The Ravens are one of the best teams in the league do you really want to fire a guy because he lost to a well coached superior football team on the road? It’s not even a decision in my eyes it’s a no brainer he stays
Tomlin is the guy who is constantly hiring the coordinators. He is the reason why they don’t have up to date schemes. He is the reason why the defense, who has all kinds of talent, continues to be a major letdown because he is the one calling the shots. Teryl Austin is going to be the fall guy because he is the DC. Yet…that’s his title, he isn’t the one calling the shots. That’s Tomlin. Tomlin refuses to hire an offensive coordinator who will outshine him. They have had their chances, yet they don’t do it. Tomlin wants the light on himself. That is my issue with Tomlin. Tomlin and Dan Campbell are the best coaches in the NFL when it comes to motivating players and getting the best out of them. The major difference is that Campbell understands that he needs a good OC and DC to get the absolute best out of his team. Losing gets old and your voice gets muddied in those losses. The Lions aren’t losing. Campbell’s voice isn’t getting muddied. Tomlin’s is. And his players are responding in a manner that’s synonymous with losing.
That’s the best response I’ve heard from that “side” of the issue. I agree with a lot of that. Do we know that’s the case with Tomlin? Not hiring guys who know what they’re doing from an ego perspective?
So name the OC he’s supposed to get. Fans seem to have all the answers. And mewsflash the Steelers Def is old and not great. They are coached well and play for each other. The have 2 great defenders and the rest are ok.
They could have hired Klingsberry from Washington. Or at least interviewed him. The issues with defense isn’t age. They are too small in the front 7. They solved the issue with teams targeting the MLBs in coverage but created a bigger issue. They can’t stop the run.
They can’t interview Kingsberry for OC right now. Lateral position. Only for head coach. Kingsberry would only leave probably for a head coach position. He likes working with Commanders and Daniels.
Rooney is putting continuity over competitiveness. The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results. That’s our offense and our coaching. You’ll beat the bad teams and get beaten by the good ones. The Steelers won’t win another Super Bowl with Tomlin as head coach.
Soooo would you rather be the Jets?
Incompetent franchises existing means the Steelers should tolerate mediocrity forever. They should trade Tomlin to any team offering a 1st
Exactly where would this team be without him? The people on this app make no sense, a coach taking sub par QB’s to the playoffs in consecutive years should be fired? How many coaches in this league are winning 10 games with the courpse of Russel Wilson and he should get fired for his performance? Give him a good young QB and then see but until then firing one of the 3-5 best coaches in sport is not a good move.
Fans are insane. It’s the same with most America, entitled and don’t realize how good they got it. There are those that have it sooo much worse like 60% of the rest of the league. Yes fire Tomlin and watch he gets scooped up and then he makes that next team better. Imagine him with the bengals.. they would be winning SBs every year
Two things can happen. The Steelers can move on from Tomlin and be successful while Tomlin can move on and succeed elsewhere. Look at Reid. He left Philly it’s not like Philly has become the Browns or Jets lol. He’s overdone his stay. It happens all the time. It’s time to go separate ways.
Reid didn’t leave Philly. They fired him
Regardless he’s not there. Tomlin isn’t leaving on his terms either. But if that’s all you took away of what I said that’s cool too.
@CoachJB…yes…imagine Tomlin with an insanely talented offense that someone else built. He’ll do great just like he did in Pittsburgh with the team Cowher built. Then…when Burrow, Chase, Higgins, and the rest of the talent is gone, the Bengals will disappear into mediocrity just like the Steelers did.
@DarkGhost…I don’t think anybody truly and wholeheartedly disagrees with your assessment. The problem is that the team is nothing more than mediocre. They’ll never be in a position to get a good, young QB and won’t trade the draft capital to get one. So every year is the same thing over and over again. Sure…he gets them to the playoffs. And consistently they are one of the three worst teams in the playoffs and have no shot of winning the Super Bowl.
Head coaches that are non competitive don’t stay employed for 18 years. Tomlin has a better win percentage than his contemporaries John Harbaugh, Sean Payton and Mike McCarthy.
Tomlin + Wilson = Mediocre.
The Steelers and Packers both lost in the first Playoff round and looked bad doing it. My chuckle meter is on overload. Yuk Yuk
Congrats on the winning percentage.
McCarthy just got shown the door in Dallas. You want the Steelers to do the same to Tomlin?
They actually get a QB this team could be dangerous.
Realistic: Steelers trade for Derek Carr or Geno Smith. I think Saints are ready to move on from Carr, give Spencer Rattler a shot next season. Seahawks could move on from Geno and give Sam Howell a shot.
Dark horse candidate: Kirk Cousins.
lol Tomlin would never want Carr. Steelers either keep Russ for another year or try to get a polished vet like Darnold or Rodgers.
Rodgers? Lmao. Did you not watch the circus in NY the last two years?
You follow up saying Steelers don’t want Carr with Rodgers who will want his guys to come in.
Good one. Steelers would definitely rather have Carr over Rodgers
For a bridge year I’d take Rodgers over Carr any day. Rodgers wasn’t the main issue in New York. With elite WRs and O Line Carr still can’t win 6 games lmao
You would
Steelers wouldn’t
Rodgers wasn’t the main issue in NY. Unless you went blind deaf or dumb during 2023 and 2024 nobody in their right mind would bring in Rodgers after watching him force the jets to bring in his guys player wise and coaching wise and get people fired. Rodgers was absolutely the problem in NY considering they could win 9 games with Zach Wilson and Mike White types.
When has Carr ever had multiple elite WRs (plural) and elite oline? Lmao. wtf are you talking about
His oline in OAK/LV were average or below and his best receiver was his TE Waller then Adams. He never had multiple elite WRs at one time. When he got to NO he has an average oline and one elite WR in olave who misses games cause of concussions.
You should work on getting your facts straight. A lot of holes in your evaluation of Carr
We get it man you’re a Carr fanboy. Ask any casual fan in the league Carr isn’t a franchise guy. And he’s had more than capable WRs and a DECENT o line multiple times in his career. Herbert went to a playoff without Mike Williams and Keenan Allen and with Staley as coach. What’s Carrs excuse?
Yes blame the top 3 most dysnfunctional nfl franchise on Rodgers. It surely had nothing to do with dogsh#t GM, terrible coaching and lack of roster depth. Surely no lmao
I like how you are back tracking
SentinelATL: “ With elite WRs and O Line Carr still can’t win 6 games lmao”
Me: Carr never had any of that in his career in OAK/LV/NO
Also SentenielATL: “ Carr isn’t a franchise guy. And he’s had more than capable WRs and a DECENT o line multiple times in his career.”
Funny that you’re calling me a carr fan boy while you’re simping for Rodgers ignoring how toxic his antics became in NY.
“ Herbert went to a playoff without Mike Williams and Keenan Allen and with Staley as coach.”
Do you ever get tired of being wrong?
2022
Williams played 13 games 900 yards
Allen played 10 games 800 yards
They got a career year out of Palmer for 900 yards
Oh and also had an ALL PRO RUNNING BACK named Austin Ekeler who caught 102 passes for 800 yards.
Williams Allen Palmer and Ekeler literally got him to that playoff game. Which he lost.
News flash him going to the Steelers he wouldn’t have multiple WR options.. it would be a downgrade at WR.. and downgrade for the Steelers at QB
Carr finished 2024 with a 63 QBR
Wilson 51
Carr finished 2023 with a 57 QBR
Wilson 51
Carr finished 2022 with a 57 QBR
Wilson 39
Lmao. Downgrade huh. Facts say you’re wrong.
@Bring. You are absolutely right about Carr. Far superior numbers to Wilson. Even had better yds/attmp than Rodger’s without bring in the head case and his circus. Steelers want no part of him. Carr is criminally underrated based on his numbers.
Might be a trade available. Pitt has a fair amount of cap space, and in Highsmith they have a vastly overpaid (cap wise) player than can replace.
A bridge year for what? This team needs a franchise QB. They don’t need a bridge QB because the QB of the future is not on this roster. They need a reset. The defense is getting old and still has elite talent but they lack offensive weapons and a QB to utilize those weapons. I do agree that this team is a QB away from being dangerous, but they are a QB, WR1, and a good offensive coordinator away from being an actual contender. They aren’t getting all of that this offseason, so a bridge QB is nothing more than what the Steelers have had for the last several years. And that includes Ben’s last couple of seasons.
Carr is soft. Dude threw the ball away on 4th down with the game on the line when with the Raiders.
Carr is super soft. Every year he’ll have that one amazing game and maybe win you 3 to 5 games but he’s not elite. At all
Carr and cousins are both downgrades from Wilson which is sad. Geno is barely an upgrade as well and you’d probably have to give him an expensive multi-year deal.
I’d stick with Russ and fields vs those yukky options lol
Course you would cause math is hard for you
Carr has finished with a higher QBR than Wilson has three year straight. So course you’d stick with Wilson with the worse QBR lmao
Carr sucks lol start a fan club bro
Keep simping for Aaron Rodgers. Maybe he will give you that discount double check you desperately want so bad if you’re a good boy.
You’re a San Diego fleet fan that tells me all I need to know about your assessments of QBs like Carr haha
Was that suppose to be funny or something? Stick to your day job.
“Haha you support local sports franchises”
So you’re saying you’re poor and can’t afford to go check out local teams? Sad.
Say whatever you got to say I’m ready for that Carr Fan Club you’re going to start. Imagine Carr in a Steelers jersey lmao
Your simping for Rodgers takes it to a whole new level.
Aaron Rodgers lmao. And you seriously think he wasnt the problem in NY. You actually believe that you dumb sob you.
Your 1st grader replies tell me a lot about you. If I’m a simp for Rodgers you’re a simp for Carr I guess? Rodgers has way more to his resume than Carr. For a one year deal with Steelers defense I truly think Rodgers would do more than Carr
You won’t change my mind I won’t change yours. I guess convo over I await your extremely mature response though /s
Fan club is some intellectual reply lmao? Overestimating your own mental capabilities I see.
You can think that. You’d be wrong. Rodgers completely ruined the Jets this season. Thats not even disputable. You bring in Rodgers you bring in all the drama.
You can say Id rather have Darnold than Carr. Many ppl would. Vikings likely franchise tag him so you’re paying him money and draft picks to get him.
You could say lets roll with Wilson or Fields again. And wind up in the same place as before.
Geno Smith and Derek Carr are better options going forward
Cheaper to acquire than Darnold
Less Crazy than Rodgers
Receiving core, esp Pickens, have 0 faith in Fields and Wilson. Bringing them back is just asking for issues
Is QBR the only stat to measure a player or is it the only one you care about because its the only that helps your case?
It’s the only stat that looks at a QBs performance and judges the QB based on what the QB does. Not what the oline does or wr do or RBs do.
Tell me you don’t know how QBR works without telling me you don’t know how QBR works
Let me guess. You wanna go off wins Lmao. What position does a QB play on defense and special teams again? I’ll wait
It doesn’t take into account O-Line. It does sacks, but it doesn’t determine whether the QB held onto the ball too long or if it was a breakdown in blocking scheme. Russ’ would be way worse because he just holds onto the ball looking around like a chicken with his head cut off. It also doesn’t put into account high leverage situations. They’ll ‘discount’ garbage time but never really add in account for a GWD. It’s a minor wrinkle but one that needs noted.
I personally prefer TDs, INTs, Yards. Which still shows Russ and Carr are the same guy. Washed and trash.
But please continue to get offended any time you are asked a question.
Not offended at all. People usually go with something basic like wins to judge a QB
TDs, Ints, yards are also factored into QBR. Not sure why you pick basic stats when they’re included in one stat that just judges a QBs performance.
Actually it does. QBR literally looks at every play a QB makes and assigns a grade
If a QB held onto the ball too long that would assign a lower grade than if a QB had two seconds to throw a ball or was under pressure immediately. The plays would be scored differently.
It also looks at turnovers and judges them based on who’s fault. If a QB over threw a guy or threw a 50/50 ball that was intercepted that’d receive a lower grade than if it hit his receivers in their hand deflected and was intercepted.
You’re right. A QB like Wilson who holds onto the ball too long would receive lower grades for holding onto the ball too long. If there was a break down in blocking scheme and he was under pressure immediately he’d receive a higher grade than if he had a clean pocket for 4-5 seconds.
So yes QBR does take into account situational performances and outcomes. Not sure where you’re getting your “facts”
QBR, or Total Quarterback Rating, is calculated by ESPN using a proprietary formula that takes into account a quarterback’s entire performance on each play, including passing, rushing, penalties, and situational factors like down and distance, while weighting each play based on its difficulty and the strength of the opposing defense
There are a lot of lunkheads in this thread.
There is no way the Steelers would be stupid enough to fire Tomlin. 15-20 teams would be falling over themselves to hire him.
Tomlin is one of my favorite coaches. Steelers aren’t idiots.
You’re right…they won’t fire him. They’ll trade him for draft capital which is exactly what this team needs.
The Steelers (and vicariously their fans and media) need to decide on one of two paths.
1) Continue with the same formula and hope to get lucky (either by getting hot and going on a run at the right time or finding some late round gems in the draft) to get over the top. Tomlin won’t let them lose so they can’t get the picks they need to get out of the mushy middle. They’d need luck.
2) Do a Browns style teardown. Trade Tomlin. Trade Pickens. Trade Watt. Trade Minkah. Trade anyone who can get you a fair draft pick in return. Accept years of losing in the hopes of building back better, which could still fail.
What is NOT on the table is this widely assumed third option where they hire a magic coach who turns this mediocre roster into a champion.
Up until now, I’d say option 1. But given the way Pickens has turned into a pumpkin and the D stars are aging, it might be time to consider option 2.
*One unlikely option 3…sign Sam Darnold if Minny lets him go and draft a couple WR’s and take another run with the current D.
They’ll likely go with your number 1, if anything. Rooney seems to love this “only 3 coaches since the horse and buggy era”public relations
The problem with getting any QB here is that if you’re going to have the same o-line, it doesn’t matter. Yeah, Russ holds onto the ball too long. But he’s constantly under fire. Warren has a quick first step. But Najee is more in the Leveon Bell, pick the hole and then go style. That’s largely impossible here
And Pickens? Trade the guy tomorrow. It’s almost comical now
I tend to agree with Madden when he says the best approach is to blow this team up. Trade guys who’ll get you high draft picks. Show Tomlin the door
And yet, we all know nothing is going to change here.
They quit over these last five games. And that’s particularly sickening
I’m a Browns fan and I’ve been saying the same thing for a couple of years now. There’s no magical door number three that immediately elevates this team; at that point they’d need some massive luck to hit on later picks or they’d have to be a little more aggressive in free agency than they’ve tended to be. None of it matters unless they find a long term answer at QB, but it’s my opinion that their roster is objectively pretty bad and I think that Tomlin is a huge reason for why they’re competitive every year.
I don’t see anyone in Pittsburgh accepting a rebuild (we’re used to it in Cleveland so that’s not the case everywhere lol), so although the more frustrated Steelers fans will say that this is the definition of insanity, in my mind it’s really their only choice. Tearing it down might seem like a good plan long-term, but I can tell you from experience that it’s not a sure thing. You can tank for high picks if you really want to, but you still have to hit on the picks.
They have a coach who’s consistently proven that he can compete with pretty limited rosters. Until they change their MO and get aggressive to add a legitimate quarterback and build around him, we’ll probably be having this conversation every year.
You’re not wrong about the rebuild. And they got extremely lucky the last time they searched for a franchise QB. They had one bad season and turned that higher first round pick into Ben Roethlisberger. And don’t forget the 1st round draft pick the season before that…Troy Polamalu. A franchise QB for the offense and the defensive equivalent in two straight seasons. And that’s where the vast majority of fans are at right now. Most of us have never had to endure a rebuild. Ever. I’m 42 and I’ve seen maybe 5 or 6 losing seasons in my life. But until the mid 2000’s, a true “franchise” QB wasn’t required to win. It sure as heck helped, but wasn’t a requirement. It is now. The game has changed. And I’m sick of mediocrity. I can stomach a couple of years of a rebuild if it gives some kind of excitement about the future. Right now…I’m not excited. Not even a little bit.
They are fools gold. The success is shiny but misleading.
And they don’t draft far enough down to get a real shot at a QB.
Its the worst place to be. This is their ceiling until they figure it out.
Duh. Imagine looking at all the teams that are constantly in flux or despair and thinking it would be wise to join them.
After watching this team quit over these last few games, your defense of this guy is mind-numbing
Bring back Mike Munchak as offensive line coach is where we should start
I won’t deny that it’s impressive that the Steelers have won 20 games the last 2 years using 5 different QBs. That being said, Tomlin continues to lose to teams he should easily beat year after year. Examples of 2 win Arizona and NE in back to back weeks last season and a 3 win Cleveland this year.
The one I’d really like to question is Omar Khan. How in the world do you expect to have a competent offense when you roll into the regular season with Van Jefferson as your #2 WR? Their lack of a true plan to improve the position other than a prolonged Aiyuk saga was baffling. You can’t expect to use an Arthur Smith run based offense when you have a OL that lost Daniels, Fautanu and Herbig before the season started and no fear of a passing game because of the weak WR group.
But this one and done is complete garbage.
Those saying to tank to get better draft picks… take a look at where the Steelers grabbed Watt and Heyward. Even Porter Jr and Pickens. They actually do worse with higher draft picks IMO. If you can’t scout in this league you won’t win regardless where you draft
Omar Khan is a bottom 5 GM and the city of Pittsburgh acts like he’s God.
Jets or Jags should trade for him w/ their first round pick straight up.
I just want him to be mire aggressive.
He’ll always punt. No matter how the game is going.
You gotta steal a drive sometimes, and he just has mo appetite for it.
Water is wet
He’s made the playoffs 12 years, and 8 of those years he did not win a playoff game. He’s a good coach but for the most part he and the Steelers can only beat the teams they’re supposed to. No one is afraid of playing them.
If the goal is to win more games than they lose, mission accomplished.
“Steelers Plan To Retain HC Mike Tomlin”
Hahahahahahahahahhahhahahahahahahhahhahaha!!!!!!
Yinz’ll never learn.
They’ve have to be stupid to get rid of him I don’t understand why his job security is such a hot topic on the first place. He’s a HOF coach
He hasn’t won a playoff game in 10 years. How many coaches can you name that have that stat and also a job?
They could do way worse than Tomlin as coach. They need to find a competent QB with a good OC and a defense is the days of LeBeau past. I guarantee you this that if he gets fired he’d be out of the league for 3 seconds because teams will be lining up to hire him
You ignored the question. How many coaches without a playoff win in 10 years are still employed by the same team?
If the Steelers were smart they’d trade tomlin. A team like the Bears would overpay and he is a good coach but he isn’t getting things done in PIT and hasn’t for 10 years. It’s time for a change and they’re better trading him than simply firing him.
Obviously. And another 9-8 first round loss coming. Organizations a joke. Rooney’s are a joke. Omar Khan’s extremely overrated. Trade every player worth anything (there’s only 4 or 5) and restart already.
Very simple question…
Does anyone think the Steelers have a better roster than the Ravens?
If you answer yes, you don’t know what you’re talking about and if you answer no, then this is was the expected outcome.
They are asking for magic.
And outraged when it is not delivered.
10 points underdogs to the Ravens Saturday night, but these Einsteins think it’s Tomlin’s fault they lost.
Does Vegas consider the coaches when setting the lines? Lmao
They don’t look at the rosters, they look at the logo.
Steelers fans believe each and every Lombardi is owed to them by birthright. The other teams are just extras and the Steelers are the main characters and would be champions each year…if not for Tomlin failing them.
This is what they truly believe in their hearts. Some will even say it out loud.
I heard some of the local media asking why they couldn’t stop the run.
I dunno, maybe because they were playing against the best rushing QB ever and the best running back of the past decade?
Steelers earned their 6 Vince Lombardi Trophies. Combined with a winning tradition, that brings you a lot of bandwagon fans who’ve never set foot in Pittsburgh.
I would retain Tomlin, unless a move can be swung for Ben Johnson or Mike McCarthy. Market moves fast.
Personnel-wise some changes are needed. Mainly, the OL & the WR group. I liked what Van Jefferson brought to the table as a complementary piece. Calvin Austin is too inconsistent and can’t win besides a Go Ball. I would like to move on from him.
Secondary – JPJ had a pretty poor sophomore season. On his rookie contract, will have to roll with him in 2025. Donte Jackson was up and down, would move on from him. Restructure Minkah & Heyward. Watt was superman, but clearly playing injured after the Philly game injury. DL Needs some serious attention. LB corps were fine, may need another piece for depth purposes. Holcomb, not sure what you can get from him post-brutal injury. DeShon Elliot was great.
Spencer Anderson is nothing more than a depth piece.
I would like competition for McCormick. He had a good rookie season, but needs to be pushed for a starting spot.
Frazier was up and down, but has potential.
Moore needs to go, but we need a backup tackle for Jones & TF. Moore would be good competition for them, but not sure he would be worth the contract and cap hit.
Defense:
DL is a huge need here, after Baltimore just pushed around that group on Saturday.
EDGE – add some more depth pieces. AH & Watt need a high-level backup. They play a very physical position. Injuries happen, both were banged up. Watt criticism will not be tolerated. He is a warrior, played through a painful injury suffered against Philly. Without Watt, we are not in a position to be 4-2 when Russ came back. Add some help for him to take on a physical toll.
Been a long time supporter of Tomlin and like him as a coach, but it may be time to part ways. While the schedule wasn’t easy the last five games, the lackluster effort in the games was apparent, concerning, and disturbing – enough to consider other options. Not sure lack of talent is a solid enough excuse when the team showed nothing collectively.
I’m in pretty much the same boat as you: longtime Tomlin supporter but I recognize that something needs to change and I’m very disturbed that the effort tapered off at the end of the season.
I keep coming back to this simple point: it’s not enough to want to dump Tomlin without a realistic plan that would improve things. He is a HOF coach and an all-time leader of men. He is worth a couple of extra wins per year just based on his ability to weather locker room distractions and push the right buttons.
What he is not great at: choosing and developing assistant coaches; in-game adjustments and decisions. We all know this. But we also all know, or should know, that as others here have mentioned, there is no “magic button” to push that makes sense. There is simply no one who could be brought in to replace Tomlin and turn this team into an immediate Super Bowl contender. To think otherwise is ludicrous.
I think that this off-season may be more telling than any other in Tomlin’s tenure. Last offseason, for maybe the first time in his tenure, he made some confessions about needing to adjust his coaching philosophy and change the locker room culture. Obviously what was done was insufficient. If he recognizes that and he and Khan make some serious, noticeable roster adjustments, I’ll be willing to go along for the ride. But if it’s simply another coordinator change and QB band-aid, then I might be grabbing an oar in your “time for a change at the top” boat.
Tomlin is a very good coach , the Steelers have made the playoffs 10 yrs straight . Now they don’t have the usual talent like the rest of the teams that make the play offs regularly but he gets the team there .
If you get rid of Tomlin & try to rebuild chances are the team will be like the old Patriots before Bellick & Brady arrived , the Steelers will probably sit in the basement for years to come .
Not a Steelers fan myself , Lions are my team & have spent many years in misery so know when a team is losing . Please enjoy the winning as you may have years of many losing seasons by getting rid of the man.
BTW Wilson isn’t that bad , there are many that are not up to par on teams that did not make the play offs , back there are too many arm chair Q/B’s here who think they are destined for greatness