Jordan Love and the Packers have yet to reach agreement on an extension. To little surprise, the ascending quarterback will not take part in training camp practices before a deal is in hand. 
Love’s camp informed Packers general manager Brian Gutekunst on Sunday that he would not take the field until an extension agreement is reached (h/t Jason Wilde of the Wisconsin State Journal). Love will engage in a hold-in by attending camp and choosing not to take part in drills. The increasingly common strategy avoids fines being incurred, something which is the case for holdouts.
“I think so, but you never know,” Gutekunst said (via Wilde) when asked if a deal could be finalized in the near future. “We’re working really hard to get that done. It’s really important for us.”
Dianna Russini of The Athletic confirms both parties remain confident an agreement will be worked out shortly. Finances (as opposed to factors such as guarantees, term and cashflow) are believed to be the biggest remaining issue in this case as the Packers weigh the risks of a Love investment after less than one strong season of production against the cost of waiting for him to up his value further. When speaking publicly on Monday, Gutekunst noted (via Ryan Wood of the Green Bay Press-Gazette) the cap implications of a mega-deal is the primary cause in the ongoing delay.
Teams with major QB commitments on the books are indeed forced to make a number of important decisions at other positions. The Packers will still have a cost-effective offense at the receiver and tight end positions given their recent draft additions even when Love (due $10.5MM in salary this year) signs his next pact, but remaining flexible beyond 2024 is a major consideration on the team’s part. Nevertheless, Gutekunst’s remarks point to Love being the next signal-caller to land a lucrative new deal.
The 2020 first-rounder has long been expected to land an AAV above $50MM despite only taking over as starter at the start of last season. His strong finish to the campaign has put him firmly in Green Bay’s long-term plans, and both team and player remained hopeful an agreement would be in place before today. That has not proven to be the case, but Love remaining sidelined for practices could provide further incentive to get a deal over the finish line.
I know people want to see more than most of one season, but they have him a prove it deal and he had an MVP caliber stretch of most of a season after turning 25. And he’s only a year and a half older than Michael Penix. If he were a free agent, he’d get a top five contract easily. It’s understandable that he wouldn’t risk injury when he’s only slated to make what Trevor Lawrence makes in like three and a half games. Their cap is in good shape and most of their skill position players and offensive linemen have at least a couple of years of rookie contract left. They should get this done.
How about the fact that he is under contract? The fact that he signed a deal and is now not living up to his commitments? After his contract is up, he has a right to do whatever he wants to do. But this crap is getting out of hand. If he gets injured the team still has to pay him to sit and watch. But one decent season and he wants his current commitment ripped up and replaced? I say screw that
It was a lot more than decent. There’s also a high likelihood that when they worked out their deal of declining his fifth year option and signing this contract instead, they had an understanding that if he played well as a starter they would come back to the table with some urgency. If he gets injured, they’ll still be paying him less cash this year than the cap hits they’re taking for both Bakhtiari and Jones this year, and they’re not even on the team anymore.
he was decent. argue with a wall
In the 10 regular season games after he turned 25, Love had a 68.7 completion percentage with 21 touchdowns and 3 interceptions, plus another 2 rushing touchdowns. Plus he went to the playoffs and blew out one of the best defenses in football. And he did all this with an incredibly young pass catching group and a left tackle situation in flux.
Looks a lot better than decent to me.
In the 10 games ?? Isn’t there 17 games in a season? You can’t just throw out games and performances that you don’t like. He got paid for 17 games. Not 10.
It was his first season starting, so you would hope to see growth over the course of it, especially with an incredibly young pass catcher group. But even if you go for the full 17 game season, he was second in the league in passing touchdowns, seventh in passing yards, and sixth in TD-INT ratio of all QBs who played at least half a season. He was also only tied for 18th in sacks taken. All of that is an incredibly auspicious first season starting, especially with the youngest supporting cast in football.
I agree he was decent. Not an MVP caliber season.
As long as the deals can be terminated by the teams before they are completed, players are going to ask for more money before the contracts are completed. Guaranteed contracts will “get this crap back in hand”. This is the system that the NFL has created. Teams cut players before contracts are completed, and players ask for more money before contracts are completed.
Regardless, teams have to pay out all guaranteed money in contract. Even if there cut
His whole current contract has less guaranteed money than Daniel Jones made the first five weeks of last season. It was an extremely low risk deal for Green Bay.
Contracts are often front-loaded with guarantees. That is why players ask for more money before their current deal is over. There aren’t a lot of guarantees left in the final year of a deal, which leaves a player vulnerable to injuries. That is why he won’t practice without some more guarantees.
That’s exactly it, larkraxm. The league needs to decide if a contract is a contract, or not- and by that I mean they need to fully guarantee every penny of every one. If they want to continue to be able to cut players and get out of the money at will, it’s only fair players are able to ask for more at any point.
Unless the league changes the system, I have no issues with players holding out to force a team’s hand.
Waiting with great anticipation…for all the fans who bragged him up so much for being the anti-Rodgers, to turn on him and tell the world what a greedy, selfish POS he is for punishing his teammates (and them personally, as if they were lifelong friends..) by sitting out until he gets his new deal…
Yep, I think he should get his while he can but hopefully they can find a common ground that keeps the Packers in some type of a decent cap situation. I think a maximum player salary will be the next big negotiation for the next CBA. If not, then QB salaries will sky rocket like MJ’s contract in the NBA but maybe it should have more and maybe they should. Although it is a team game.
Rodgers spent a couple of years making people wonder whether he wanted to even be on the Packers (or in the NFL at all).
No,the Packers made him wonder whether they’d want him.
What a loser. Play. Your. Deal.
It was a short term deal to see how he did as starter. Now it’s time to work out a long term deal.
If he wanted longer he should have agreed on longer. He is contracted to play, do team activities, and workouts under THIS contract. Do that, while negotiating his much deserved increase in pay.
There is no reason to say he doesn’t deserve more money and term, but he also needs to to right by the team and honor his end while he negotiates those terms.
Like I always say, the team has to honor a deal if they cut him by paying the guaranteed amount on the deal. So players need to honor their end by showing up for any and all commitments while they renegotiate.
Can you not understand the concept of a placeholder contract?
It’s a placeholder now because when we see what he did last year it looks as though he is owed much more.
If he did not perform well at all would the deal really be considered a “placeholder”?
Lark you make a great point, I would be curious to see if under your suggestion that the team would be within their right to not pay out his $500,000 workout bonus or a portion of his signing bonus if he continues to hold out during camp?
If he hadn’t played well and looked like a future starter, they’d be planning for another quarterback having risked pocket change (by quarterback standards) on Love. He played like an MVP candidate down the stretch and led a blowout in the playoffs. Now he’s got one year left at high end backup money.
He has 1 year on the deal he agreed to play for worth the amount left on the deal he agreed to play for.
He’s great, I hope they get a deal done. As a Packer fan the second they sign his deal I will buy a jersey as I did with Rodgers, and Favre.
If he doesn’t sign a new deal, the team is going to tag him and repeat this whole thing next year. Then again the next year if he doesn’t sign.
I’m guessing this will be resolved very soon and no one is all that caught off guard. There’s really no need to jump in and call the guy a loser immediately when odds are you’ll be buying his jersey in the next couple of weeks.
I have to be consistent lol. Holding myself to the same standard as I would for any player who skirts a contract.
You could just recognize it as part of how business is done in the NFL and not treat it like someone shockingly broke a sacred vow every time.
The fact that it doesn’t have to be a part of the business is what irritates me. It has become this drama every year now where people who agreed to deals just decide they won’t show up to honor those deals and the bulk of fans pity them rather than calling out players and the union for not having the stones to get what they should have had 2 agreements ago, and that is guaranteed contracts.
Every league has guaranteed contracts. It can absolutely be done. Hire former labor experts from those leagues and just get this done already. This would end the ridiculous cap mangling that we see today as well. This one singular issue of non-guaranteed money in contracts has so many other far reaching impacts than people realize.
Agreed, especially in a sport where players take on so much risk and so many long term consequences.
Totally agree. Players should get more pay, benefits, and protections.
Can we agree they and their union need to man up and push it in their CBA deals?
They can push it, but I sadly don’t think they’ll get it, even with added games.
I think the threat of not having a season would change it. There has to be a way forward, right?
The NFL knows it’s not if but when. We have fully guaranteed rookie deals, but not for veterans? Granted, vet deals are much more expensive.
Vet deals are much more expensive, and keeping veterans on thinner ice is also one way to keep labor power weaker. But there’s also the financial logistics: Teams are required to put cash for all guaranteed money in a contract in escrow at signing. This is already a pretty big burden on teams with owners who aren’t particularly rich beyond team ownership. Some of these owners would fight universally guaranteed contracts harder than they would fight just about anything else.
Can’t they just pay the fie that was agreed upon in the contract and still “honor the deal”. The contract doesn’t say that if you hold out, then you are in breach. If that were the case, a judge would force them to play. It says if you aren’t here for training camp, there is a fine. Paying the fine makes the player contract compliant.
If holding out was against the league policy they wouldn’t allow it. It is within player right to request a raise. Just like you can request one and it is within your employer to say no like the NFL teams can.
NFL likes the players requesting extension and hold outs it keeps them in the news during off season. MLB off season is boring and confusing with arbitration junk. The NBA is quick but forgettable after FA unless a trade. NFL gets talked about from Feb through kick off.
Green Bay and QB drama go hand-in-hand. Its kinda funny that he’ll likely be getting paid more than Rodgers if/when they sign him to an extension.
They’ve had three starting quarterbacks over the last three decades. Teams would kill for that level of drama.
pack should have picked up the 5th year option. now they have to extend him without knowing if that was an 8 game mirage….
It was a mirage, which is why this kid thinks he deserves a huge extension for a few games of work. If he was confident if in his abilities he would play out his deal. Now the packers are going to have to pay more than Rodgers for a lesser QB. LOL
Play hardball. Sign Tannehill. Let him sit and lose money.
That’s the kind of moronic approach the Bears would employ…lol. Everyone knows Love is the “guy” in Green Bay for the next several years (barring injury). Nothing is gained when management plays those types of stupid games. They are going to pay Jordan big bucks. He knows it…they know it…so just get the deal done.
Good luck, Guttenmoron! Pay the Lover boy $50 Million plus per season.
Come clean… Rodgers? is that you?
Ha ha! But thinking how Gut fat treated a sure hall of fame QB and getting birned by a newbie is quite entertaining.
Worst QB deal ever incoming KEKW
Dak Prescott signing soon?
“I’ve got a contract, but I’m not going to honor it,” Mr Love said. “But if you give me more money I’ll show up,” he continued. He’s had a good 4 months and he should be paid for it. Let’s see, who’s had a good 4 months straight. Gardner Minshew, Ryan Fitzpatrick, Jake Browning, Geno Smith are a few who have had a good solid run of 4 months at a time and you’re already being paid on par with them. These QB’s that think they are being underpaid and are wanting to be paid like Mahomes, Burrow and Allen haven’t done anything close to what these 3 have done. If you’re going to take your ball and go home why would I want you on my team. You’re going to let every man on that team down because you won’t show up to practice and that lack of practice and getting in rhythm with your receivers and getting to know the offensive line tendencies may cost your team some games in the short term. But you’re willing to maybe miss the playoffs because YOU want more money and to H**L with the other players and those stupid fans that pay your salary. Tired of these clowns who haven’t done anything but want to be paid like a super bowl winner.
I understand your frustration, but guarantee the contracts if you want a guarantee that players will complete them. MLB does not have spring training hold outs!
This has nothing to do with the situation at hand. The contract love signed during the offseason was fully guaranteed.
HONOR THY MOTHER. THY FATHER AND THY HONOR CONTRACT. He signed a contract now abide by it.
I’m tired of these professionals who want a bigger contract when they still have a year or so left on their contracts.
Some of yall act like you can’t ask for a raise at your job…if you have jobs. If the employer denies you a raise or whatever you want to be upgraded you are free to leave.
Except this would be like getting a raise and before you work again demanding your boss quadruple your salary.
Jordan Love signed a 1 year, maximum $22.5M extension with the Packers, preceding a $20.272M 5th-year option decision. The deal includes $13.5M fully guaranteed at signing, and runs through the 2024 season.
The contract says that you can miss practice and pay a fine. If he is in breach, then take him to court. Paying the fine for missing practice is allowed in the contract.
This is professional sports in the 21st century,like it or not, and personally, I don’t. It be what it be.
k, byeeeee!!
lol, jk. could you imagine tho?!
These pro sports players are spoiled rotten acting like children. You’re making enough money as it is, that money people would kill to be making. Grow up and play out the contract.
GB is going to pay him. Trevor Lawrence just got $55 million so Dak, Love and Tua can ask for the same amount.
Perfect that gives us a chance to look at good quarterbacks
Such as..?
Man, some of you really get excited about this. It’s just the business of football. We all knew last years contract signing was essentially a one year deal to see what he can do.
The Packers will sign him to a deal. And some of you will flip out, I’m sure.
Yeah, and now love is refusing to play out that 1 year deal, that he just signed a couple weeks ago.
I’m so confused. Love just signed a contract 2 weeks ago?
No, he didn’t sign a contact a couple of weeks ago.
From CBS sports: “Instead of picking up his fifth-year option last spring, the Packers signed Love to an extension that has him under team control through the 2024 season. He’s set to make $11 million in total cash this year, which is well below the going rate for starting-caliber quarterbacks. ”
So, sure he is under contract this year for $11 million. But that’s it. And some will argue he needs to honor that. Love is saying he wants an extension and won’t practice until he gets one.
it’s all the business of pro football. The Packers will get the extension done. Love will be at practice. Love will start the season.
Then we will see if he is indeed the QB from 2023 (who ended the season incredibly strong) and keeps going.