In the latest development in the ongoing Lamar Jackson saga, the former MVP has made a major announcement. Jackson tweeted Monday morning that, as of earlier this month, he requested a trade from the Ravens. 
In an open letter to his fans, Jackson acknowledges that on March 2 he formally asked to be traded from the Ravens. The reason, he adds, is that the organization “has not been interested in meeting my value” with respect to a new contract. The issue of full guarantees in his newest deal has produced a major stalemate between the two sides, and now this public admission that Jackson wishes to continue his career elsewhere.
The 26-year-old has been at the center of speculation in Baltimore for several years now, as a mega-extension has never seemed to be particularly close to being finalized. It has long been believed that Jackson is seeking a fully guaranteed pact matching (if not exceeding) the value of Deshaun Watson‘s five-year, $230MM contract signed last offseason. The Ravens’ decision to not reach that level of compensation was hinted at last summer by owner Steve Bisciotti, and has been confirmed by the subsequent deals they have offered the agent-less Jackson.
The impasse between club and player made it no surprise that the Ravens placed the franchise tag on the two-time Pro Bowler. Since they went the non-exclusive route, other teams are eligible to negotiate with Jackson on a new deal, but Baltimore would have the right to match any offer sheet he signed with an interested suitor. In the event they didn’t, Jackson’s new team would lose its first-round pick in the next two drafts as compensation.
That price has led to several teams bowing out of the running for a pursuit of Jackson via the offer sheet (with the Colts representing a potential exception). Now, however, a tag-and trade possibility exists. Jackson could sign his franchise tender (valued at $32.4MM) to pave the way for a deal sending him to a new team which, presumably, would appeal to him because they would be able to meet his contract demands. The Ravens and the acquiring team would be free to negotiate trade compensation of any kind, but this latest news doesn’t guarantee that a blockbuster deal is on the horizon.
Jackson’s reveal of his trade request came at exactly the time Ravens head coach John Harbaugh was scheduled to speak at the league’s meeting taking place this week. Amidst his reaction to the news of Jackson’s desire to be dealt, Harbaugh reiterated multiple times that he still fully expects Jackson to be the team’s quarterback in 2023 (Twitter links via NFL Network’s Mike Garafolo).
This latest development comes just days after it was reported that Ken Francis – a business associate of Jackson’s, but not a certified agent permitted to negotiate trade or contract terms – was speaking with potential new teams. It was also reported at that time that Jackson was ready to move on from the Ravens, something confirmed by his actions today.
Never in NFL history has a former league MVP under the age of 30 been traded. That would make a move in which the Ravens meet Jackson’s request an historic one, though a somewhat familiar path to the one taken last spring with wideout Marquise Brown. The latter was traded at the draft in 2022, and it was soon learned after that deal that Brown had asked to be moved. Jackson’s situation is different, of course, but a swap involving him would obviously mark another major alteration to the team’s offense.
This situation could, on the other hand, play out more similarly to the one concerning 49ers star Deebo Samuel last year. Samuel requested a trade after contract talks initially failed to produce a new deal, but the team made it clear they were not interested in dealing him. The two sides later came to an agreement on a big-ticket extension, though a repeat of that would involve a much larger pact in Jackson’s case. How the Ravens (and potential Jackson destinations) react to this news will steer this saga into its next phase.
I mean… yeah? This is news?
Yes, Malbotti, it is news. You time an announcement like this for maximum impact. Do it earlier in the month ,it’s lost amid all the noise around Aaron Rodgers. Do it in the middle, it’s dwarfed by March Madness — and this is a year where the tournaments have been major news for the men AND the women.
I guess my comment was too vague. He’s basically said before he has no interest in playing in Baltimore any longer, with his perception of how he’s been treated and (in his mind) lowballed.
Don’t worry, most people know what you meant.
No new news here
There’s a women’s March madness?
The news is that he requested it before they formally tendered him the franchise tag, I believe. He knew it was coming but I’m not positive how that works. For a trade to happen, he would have to sign the tender first, then work out an extension with the team trading for him. I’m not sure what the benefit would be for the Ravens to trade him after he signs the tender. He could try to follow Le’veon Bell’s playbook, but I think they’d take that chance. If he finds a team that is willing to give him a fully guaranteed offer sheet, Baltimore could match or accept two first rounders.
Can’t Lamar just negotiate a contract with a new team right now because Baltimore placed the non exclusive tag on him?
Yes, but teams either
A) Won’t go fully gtd and as such won’t even engage, as the NFLPA said anything not fully gtd won’t be entertained
or
B) Know you need to build a certain team around him and that isn’t viable while giving up the picks you need to do it.
All true but even if a team were to trade for him after he signs the tender (which he likely won’t) that team would still need to traded picks for him and negotiate a contract for after this coming year.
C) he needs to break down and finally hire an agent who knows how to negotiate and navigate through circumstances like these.
Can’t go back on that now, that would be admitting the NFLPA has already screwed him out of 60MM+ and more if he was renegotiating right now like he definitely would have been.
No one is going to give him a fully guaranteed deal so I’m not sure why he blames the Ravens.
Show me a real article of Lamar Jackson or some real representation of his saying he will only take fully guaranteed money…. The issue with Lamar not having an agent is the $, it’s the fact that the NFL and teams can put out more ‘information’ quicker and louder than Lamar. 75% of the time that information is fabricated. So YOU think he’s asking 250M guaranteed, when really he’s just asking to be fairly compensated. He’s lightyears better than Watson, and not a SA offender, and wants paid in the same manner…..
It’s already come out that he said no to 180 million guaranteed. Not sure what more you need to know he wants to be the highest paid qb in nfl history
Link to an article please. Give me a link where Lamar or his representation have said this. the ONLY known deal turned down was $133M Gtd. Idk where you are getting 180, but hey.
How about 200 million ?
link to baltimorebeatdown.com
Now enjoy your crow
Baltimore beatdown… And did you even read the article?
“Chris Mortensen and I reported on this last September, when Lamar Jackson was offered a deal that he turned down. A deal that included at the time he was offered $133 million due at signing,”
The other money to get to $200 were injury guarantees, not real guarantees….
‘EnJOy YOuR CrOW’
And I stated from Lamar’s party, not the BS Adam Schefter acts like he knows. He’s wrong daily.
Schefter has proven himself time after time with real takes.
Also if you’re going to quote from the link why did you cut it and not include the rest about the other guaranteed money?
“ A deal that included at the time he was offered $133 million due at signing,” Schefter said. “$133 million guaranteed. The contract also had injury guarantees that brought the guarantees to $175 million and it then had a springing guarantee that could’ve brought the value for the contract, the guaranteed money of the contract to $200 million in guarantees…”
Right after I stated it went to 200M for injury guarantees. It’s right there.
133 was at the time of signing…175 was for injury guarantees and 200 was if he was on the roster in 3 years which…why wouldn’t he be?
Yeah, you’d still be wrong, bud.
His representation? He doesn’t have any.
Which is EXACTLY my point….. Would you believe a third party source about your own life? No, so why do you believe the one’s speaking on Lamar…??
You haven’t made a point. You just disagree with everyone proving your statements wrong.
Therefore you have no point. Go away Brownsbacker. Keep enjoying your losing seasons
Browns backer? Lol you came in here and did nothing but make sad, wanna be funny remarks. I’ve made a clear point, you just don’t have the comprehension skills for it to reason with you….
Haha I forgot about that guy. I really hope I never have to deal with him again. He made Xiabal seem intelligent
Don’t need an article. You believe everything you read. He’s over priced himself and no owner is putting $200+ million in escrow for an injury prone QB that doesn’t support his teammates during a playoff game.
The stead Lamar took his balls and went crying home to mommy and Body by Jake. Good luck Lamar. Baltimore got the most out of your cost control. Now you want to get paid like something you didn’t want to take the time to be….a franchise WB.
Define injury prone.. Burrow has missed 2 less games than Lamar, is he injury prone?
Bruised his ego when he didn’t get his money so he refused to play in the playoffs. Just ask the locker room if he was really hurt.
You didn’t answer my question. Burrow has missed 2 less games than Jackson, is Burrow injury prone?
Would you pay that much money for a guy who has missed 5 games in each of the last two seasons? Injury prone or not, its the price tag that is making teams not interested. If he lowers his ask then he will have at least one team interested but even then the non exclusive tag comed with two 1sts given up just to acquire him. Baltimore is in the driver’s seat here. They don’t have to budge.
Yes, considering players can get hurt brushing their teeth. It’s part of the game. The excuses being said for a guy who was a unanimous MVP not to be paid for the first time is hysterical.
Yeah,but thats 2019 you are talking here. His stats since then don’t merit a big contract like he is asking for. Again, he comes down in price the, yeah, he gets a deal no doubt. Right now his trajectory is similar to Cam Newton’s. If he stays healthy and puts up numbers similar to 2019 then i eat crow. Simple.
Did Watson’s 2 seasons sat out merit the contract? Exactly…
Crow is being ate.
Considering the offensive line Burrow has played behind since he came into the league, no he isn’t as injury prone as Jackson.
Alec, what about with his line now? Burrow gone for the year is he NOW considered injury prone or does he need 2-3 more season ending ones first?
Burrow doesn’t have the same history of injury as Jackson nor the same dangerous playing style. Same deal with Kirk Cousins. Played almost ten years, missing few games (in a similar style). Eventually, everyone gets injured.
Running QB’s like Jackson and DeShaun Watson (and RGIII) get injured much more often.
Yet Burrow is the one hurt more than Jackson
Remember when Jackson was more ‘injury prone’ than Burrow? How’s that worked out???!! Hahahahaha bums ANYONE can get hurt.
Still wouldn’t trade Goff and the rights to Gibbs and/or LaPorta for Jackson.
And your still stupid.
And who even ever mentioned that? Now your making up scenarios in your head to justify your stupidity.
I did in my original post. It was prior to the draft and I said I wouldn’t trade Goff and a number 1 for Goff and you mocked that. Our number 1 turned out to be Gibbs. Not sure that merits a stupid reference but I suppose I should consider the source.
And like I said, the draft is a crap shoot. You have to pick the right guys. Detroit did (even though LaPorta was a second rounder. I’ll let that slide). I didn’t mock that at all actually, I added my insight on the situation. I apologize though for claiming you never mentioned that, I was wrong.
Doesn’t change the fact that the narrative around this post was Lamar is injury prone, and Burrow was brought up as being an ‘iron man’ of sorts when comparing to LJ8. The tables have completely turned in that situation.
You are correct. My post was off topic. My bad.
Likewise on my end, I was incorrect and inconsiderate to call you stupid. Cheers to the weekend
Come on. Aren’t their two Cleveland Browns ownership groups in the NFL.
He is 26 years old. Why not give him a guaranteed contract and the Ravens two first round picks. It’s a bargain for any team needing an excellent QB. Owners not giving guaranteed contracts is ridiculous. The players union is a joke.
Escrow requirements the union thought was a good idea sure aren’t very good.
Giants should have paid Jackson instead of Jones.
So let’s say that the Raiders trade their #1 this year and the rights to Jimmy Garoppolo to the Ravens for Lamar Jackson. I know that one of my friends would love that deal.
The problem, (and apparently the “news” to him) is NO ONE is going to trade for him without a deal in place. And he had better be prepared- another reason to have an agent- if no one is willing to give him what he thinks he’s worth.
Would cost much more than a first and Jimmy G
Might be worth giving him a “Succession-style” offer sheet with guarantees at least as high as Watson. If Baltimore decides that’s too rich for their blood, they’ll take the two firsts.
No one can give him a deal “too rich for baltimores blood” is the issue. There was 2 teams that could and they decided to fill other needs instead of just one.
Knowing the salary cap makes knowing what’s actually possible a lot easier.
Miami just entered the chat
They entered,
They said no thanks,
And then they left the chat.
Miami needs to go all on with lamar. 2 first rounders, Tua, and another pick or two.
No one is touching Tua. The guy is damaged goods. He’ll need to stay healthy through a full season to even begin to reset the idea that he has a future in this league.
Something along these lines makes sense, although that’s a bit much for MIA to offer. Tua and some hight draft picks for sure.
No one wants Tua
Lol! They’re 3M away from being over the cap…they literally cannot afford him.
Well they could create cap room by restructuring contracts and workijg lamars deal around that. I’m sure many players would restructure to bring in lamar.
I’ve felt Baltimore gave him the non exclusive tag so he could see that no other club was going to offer him what he wants.
Watson’s deal is an outlier not a new normal.
Cleveland is ridiculous for that garbage deal.
This was always the situation. He’s clearly been frustrated with the organization for a while. Slapping him in the face with the lower tag was the official end of this relationship. Baltimore can posture however they want, but better go out and trade him. If not, I’d fully expect him to sit out the season. Ravens have horribly bumbled this situation from the start, not that Lamar has made it easy. I fully see both sides of this. Right or wrong, here you are. Get as much for him as possible and move on. If I’m the Jets, I make a full pivot and trade for Lamar. He probably won’t cost all that much more than old man Aaron.
I agree with the first half of what you said, but honestly, I don’t think Baltimore has messed up here at all. Watson’s deal screwed up the “market” and, if I was Baltimore, I’d make no effort to replicate a deal like that on my own team. I’m actually impressed they’ve toed the hard line, identified what they’re comfortable committing with, and moving on to avoid crippling the team going forward with a deal for a player with a likely unsustainable play style.
Totally agree that the Watson deal was flat stupidity and in no way should Raven match it. I do believe the Ravens team building philosophy has helped to create this situation tho. They continue to go all out building their D while refusing (or maybe just failing) to put any weapons (not named Andrews) around Lamar. He has to feel like they are expecting him to do everything alone on offense. Which will severely shorten his career and kill his value. For these reasons, sure go demand a fully guaranteed contract. Again tho, I’m not giving it to him. I just see both sides here.
Agreed
I’ll say it again. Regardless of trade compensation, no team will trade for him without a deal in place.
I’ll say it again. Regardless of trade compensation, no team will trade for him without having a deal in place.
Looks like you did
HaHa! So I did. App glitch I guess..
How is the lower tag a slap in the face? It’s just a smart business move. If Lamar really wants out then they can recoup two first round picks for him. It also lets Lamar see that no one is going to give him the fully guaranteed deal he seeks. It also allows Baltimore to negotiate a long term deal with Lamar if he comes back.
Since you’re a Bengals fan, I guess I’d ask you how you see Lamar in comparison to your QB. Honestly. Burrow is one of the top 2 or 3 QB’s in the league and a threat no matter the score or how much time is left
Is Lamar in that conversation from where you sit?
Because although he’s a diva, Rodgers has always been the same kind of QB that Burrows has ascended to and in my mind, passed
This isn’t trash talking Lamar. He’s an incredible athlete and who can blame him for wanting max compensation. But to me at least, given their talent, the Jets would be crazy to do as you suggest
Burrows top 2-3 in the whole league ? Talk about a stretch. He’s top 10 for sure not top 5
Maholmes
Rodgers
Jackson
Hurts
Watson
All better than burrows
Watson, Hurts and Jackson?
Over Burrow?
Maybe in your Madden league, but you’re embarrassing yourself, junior
And Rodgers? Maybe 5 years ago
Thanks. Needed a good laugh
You don’t even put Josh Allen in your top 5? What a dolt.
Mahomes
Allen
Hurts
Burrow
As a Packers fan first and a Ravens fan second, I will say that I’ve gotten to watch an elite quarterback in Aaron Rodgers and Lamar Jackson is not close to that. Lamar Jackson does not have a great QB IQ. There are lots of plays that I watch and I think what Aaron Rodgers would’ve done after seeing the play fail for Jackson. Jackson doesn’t seem to see plays develop in front of him the way Rodgers does. A goal line play illustrated this last year, if it were Aaron Rodgers, he would’ve had the ball out about as soon as it was snapped and would’ve gone to the left for an easy TD, but Jackson never saw that play, he never look left, and never saw it it was gonna be there at the line. Jackson just looked right and stared down Mark Andrews who was double covered and surprise no touchdown. Jackson can be fun to watch, but as a passer, he’s just okay. And I thought Jackson was on his way to being really good as in his second season, he cleaned a lot of stuff up from his first season, but he seems to have regressed in the seasons since.
Hey! I’m only 49! Oh, you meant that Aaron… His arm’s slightly better than mine.
I don’t think they’d pivot to Lamar because they’re building the offense around Aaron’s skillset. Also, I don’t see them willing to give up that much compensation. Even an offer sheet would cost two first rounders if Baltimore didn’t match.
I wouldn’t touch him with 10 foot pole if I was the Lions GM.To even think about offering Jared Goff and 1 first round pick would be ludicrous given their current situation.
It’s a good thing for the Lions as a franchise then that you’ll never be within a 1,000,000,000 foot pole of the GM job…
Would the Lions be in a better position to win this year with Goff and their 2 first and second round picks or with Lamar minus a first and second round pick?
Lamar would be the best QB in the NFC, they’d easily be in better shape to win with Lamar. Don’t get it fooled, draft picks are nice, but you have to pick the right guy still and the draft is a crapshoot. You aren’t guaranteed anything in the draft. You know what you got in Lamar, a top 7 talent….
Have to disagree with you here. I’m sure the Lions would change their offense around to accommodate Lamar but Goff has made them a pass happy approach with solid contributions from their running backs. I’m not sure Lamar would maintain the first element of that equation anywhere near as capably.
Yes, the running attack would have a new wrinkle that DC’s would have to prepare for but as is, the Lions are a multi-faceted offense
We often forget Lamar led the league in passing TD’s before, and he did that with his top WR being a rookie Hollywood Brown… Give Lamar St. Brown, Jameson Williams, and Swift out of the backfield you’ll be a top 3 NFC team. You’re just not gonna say that with Goff. Lamar has never had a a receiver half as talented as the Lions guys. That changes everything…
Hmmm,Swift was out or subpar for at least half the year and Williams was a total non-factor last year.Plus they traded away Hockenson. Not sure I would rate the Lions receivers as above average taking the entire season into consideration.This year might be a different story,particularly if they draft a Hockenson replacement.
Williams was coming off of an injury in his rookie year. When they drafted him, they flat out said they would take all the time necessary to get him 100%… Swift is a fine change of pace back and compliments Montgomery very nicely. There’s not a sane person in the world who can sit here and say the Lions don’t have a better offense than the Ravens, and if you add Lamar it’s lethal…
The Lions offense 4th in the NFL last year. I would rate that as being fairly lethal, even without Williams and having a subpar Swift for most of the year. You still can’t convince me the Lions would be better with Jackson given the contract implications and losing draft choices
That’s fine I’m not here to convince you, I already know I’m right..
Well, he did that with Mark Andrews as his top target and he had Mark Ingram in the backfield, too. But your point is well taken
The question is, where has he been since ‘19. I’d submit that DC’s have learned to adjust to him
You may be right. Again, he’s a phenomenal athlete. I just never thought he was a phenomenal QB
And that’s fine you can think that. But he’s immediately the best QB in the NFC if he went to the Lions, and the Lions offense has 5x the help that he had in Baltimore. Andrews is a good TE, but even a good TE can’t take away from the glorified punt returners that make up the rest of their receiving core. Or the lack of RB’s, especially keeping them healthy.
I appreciate your insights but again, beg to differ with you
Best athlete at the QB spot? Sure
Best QB?
Ahead of Hurts? No
Better passer than Stafford? No
I’ll spare you the litany. Guess we shall see. Thanks
Let’s allow Hurts to do it more than once before we crown him, though he looks to be a very good QB, and taking Stafford in any capacity over Lamar is pretty laughable in my opinion at this stage in his career. As a Steelers fan, I’ve said this for 5 years now. We lost out on a top tier QB talent, for the 5th best safety (maybe worse) on the board in Edmunds. I’d be ecstatic if we got rid of Pickett and grabbed Lamar, but I know it’s the most unrealistic of all outcomes.
Let me know when Lamar has done it even once. Which Stafford and Hurts have done. Actually, just let me know when Lamar finds someone who’ll pay him what he wants. At some point the Diva part overshadows the talent part. And if he chooses not to play, it’ll be the biggest mistake he’s ever made..
Lamar was an MVP? What’s your definition of ‘doing it’? Hurts has actually accomplished less, besides his SB loss, which is just that, a loss.
Well, the point is Hurts got em there. Not his fault their vaunted D-line completely caved in the second half. But I digress.. No one has said Lamar is not a great athlete. And arguing who is “better” is pointless. It’s the contract he wants and the soap opera, no agent, Diva behavior that has mostly contributed to this drama and the thing that, barring another crazy Cleveland- like swan dive, has painted him into a corner.
And here in Pittsburgh, just a disgrace that the Steelers didn’t draft him thanks to rumor. Ridiculous
Is Andrews , Bateman, Duvernay, and Dobbins not actually a bit better?
Not even close…. Dobbins has done – nothing. Bateman has done – nothing. Duvernay is a glorified punt returner, he wouldn’t even play on the Texans…..
Son, sit down and be quiet. Dobbins is better than Swift, 226 career carries for 1325 yards and 11 TD’s. Averages 5.9TPC. Duvernay had 400 yards and 3 TD’s, but a lot of that is that Lamar and Huntley suck.
Son? Watch your mouth keyboard warrior. I can’t believe you’re celebrating 400 yards that might be the funniest thing anyone has said on here today. Swift, a RB, had 40 less receiving yards than Duvernay… Dobbins, averaged .2 more YPC than Swift, wow man he REALLY lit the world on fire. Notice how you didn’t mention Bateman, and his whopping 800 career receiving yards. When the GM comes out and flat out says they need to draft better WRs, it doesn’t say much for your 1st round wideout Bateman. Only thing more sad than the fact you think Lamar ‘sucks’ is the sad attempt of insulting me over a trade rumor website. Hysterical
I agree that nobody should tell you to be quiet. Not sure if you put much stock in pro football focus grades but for 2022 they had Baltimore ranked higher for pass and run blocking along with higher ranked hb’s and te’s. They had Detroit ranked higher only pertaining to wideouts. Not to mention the difference in the two defenses that gave Lamar better field position.
I couldn’t imagine having so little self confidence, and needing so much attention that you act like this on every post.
The Jets should kick the tires on this. The A—A-Ron saga hasn’t moved much.
Might see the packers pull the trigger soon.
So, like…Lamar Jackson and The Ravens aren’t getting along?
As a Steelers fan, I hope he stays in Baltimore. Tremendously gifted athlete, but as QB, he’s never frightened me that much.
He doesn’t scare anyone. He’s a flashy player who is fun to watch but doesn’t do a whole lot to actually make the team more likely to compete for a SuperBowl. he’s just a mediocre QB
That 2018 playoff loss to the Chargers showed every team in the league how to defend/defeat Jackson’s athleticism. Not every team has the players to do it on a week-to-week basis, but playoff teams generally do.
As a fellow Steeler fan I was hoping they’d sign him to a huge deal. He’s good but not worth top tier money.
He was special, that is until the league figured out how to defend against him. The cover zero Miami debacle in 21 was telling to me.
We are assuming he still has passion for the game. Does he? IMO he’s trying to figure out how to leave the game without looking bad to the fans, his teammates, the PA. He’s slow playing his exit to cushion this blow and, unfortunately, in doing so making a respected NFL franchise look bad. This 24 hr “trade” request, to me, is just the latest indication of this.
shame on the Ravens, they never treated Flacco like this… really makes you wonder hmmm
Shut up. Flacco won a ring
That is one of the dumbest takes I’ve seen regarding this situation.
Flacco bet on himself, went out and won a Superbowl in the final year of his contract, while having one of the best statistical post-seasons ever. Then he accepted a top of the market deal that he earned that wasn’t fully guaranteed.
Flacco had no injury history when he signed his contract. Flacco tore his ACL 2 years later, never was the same, and even without a fully guaranteed contract was a limiting factor for the rest of his time with the Ravens and kept them from being able to build a better team.
Lamar’s injury history aside, the experience with Flacco certainly has to make the Raven’s think about how much money gets guaranteed to a single spot again.
Lamar, as great as he is, hasn’t won a superbowl, has only one a single playoff game, and at best has missed the end of the last 2 seasons with injuries and at worst may have given up on the team last year to prove a point.
Either way, not worth a fully guaranteed contract or anything near Watson’s guaranteed money. Good luck getting it and if he does I bet against any sustained success for whatever team is dumb enough to do it.
You know there’s this guy Dan Marino who never won a superbowl but he was kinda okay in his time
People you all need to learn winning a championship isn’t just on the QB lots of things have to go right. Hell you also need to have the refs do their job correctly ( I’m referring to that horrible no call on PI a few years ago between the rams and saints). Lamar Jackson is easily a top 5 qb today stop with the false information
Apples and oranges
More abject stupidity from a Lamar fan
And being a fan is fine. He’s a gifted athlete
But he’s nowhere near top 5 at the position and as a QB, isn’t a pimple on Marino’s backside
Having watched Dan at the high school, college and pro level, your comparison is alternately remarkable…and embarrassing.
Do any of the other “TOP 5 QBs” on your list have guaranteed deals? Anything that is “dramatically” better than what Lamar has been offered?
I bet any Miami fan would rather have another superbowl than Marino.
I would be happy to have Lamar at the right price. I am not discounting his ability or stating that he isn’t a top QB in this league. But, worth whatever “his perceived value” is a different story.
Rvn_Hmr nailed it. NONE of the legitimate top 5 QBs have fully guaranteed deals…or the injury history of Lamar. Making this issue about race is ridiculous. Several teams would make that trade if his demands are more reasonable than all the reports. Interesting that no one’s pulled the trigger (wonder why).
Dan Marino is a different story. There’s a great article that I can’t find right now but it really details how terrible the Miami organization was during Marino‘s tenure. It goes in depth about the decisions Miami made that really hampered Marino(such as horrible draft decisions). And the fact that Marino put up the numbers he did with all that working against him and every team knowing he was going to throw, makes his numbers even more impressive.
Consider this though: “In 17 seasons as Miami’s starting quarterback, his(Marino’s) defenses averaged 18th in the league, only cracking the top ten three times, including his first and final seasons. Those same Dolphin teams consistently ranked towards the bottom of the league in rushing (22nd over his career) and Marino only had a 1,000 yard rusher once.”
Moral of the story with Marino is he was the victim of a poorly ran franchise.
My point was even an elite qb can’t do it on his own. Thanks for helping prove my point
My reply was misplaced above. That the Steelers didn’t draft Marino due to rumor was beyond regrettable. Outrageous
nailed it
As a Ravens fan I am done,. Have been done with him for a while. I am more mad at the IDIOT that gave Watson that stupid contract. But done with all this. He was fun to watch. Now go.
Hopefully the Orioles can provide Baltimore fans with some pain relief.
He over values himself. He’s nothing . ore than a half ass QB who will eventually end up in a backup role. Ravens should get rid of him quickly and see if they can get any value for him. I dont see many teams lining up for his services unless they’re desperate.
Let him sit and have more family time.
If I were Lamar I would ask to be traded to an NFC team.
where NFC stands for No Financial Ceiling.
His per game stats are similar to Kaepernick except in the playoffs where kaep was way better. Take the market value contract, it’s a lot more money than the collusion hush money check will be in 5yr.
The biggest problem here is this thought of each position having its own market. The fact that Kyler Murray is the 3rd highest player in the league is just blasphemy. That dude is so mediocre but because “the QB market” called for that contract he got it. What ever happened to just getting paid what you’re worth based on what you do? If that was the case, then you are looking a LJ who is probably like 10th best QB in the league, so I dk why he thinks he’s worth SO much money. I still can’t believe there are 13 QBs in this league that make more than Aaron Donald. He is a better overall player than at least half of those guys, but cuz he’s not a QB he gets ripped. Let’s not talk about all the RBs who make like nothing now and take an absolute beating. The QB market has gotten ridiculous and these expectations from middle of the road QBs are insane to me. Yet nowhere do you read a single writer or sports guy talking about the fact that he’s just not that good
If you believe Aaron Donald is getting ripped then consider how badly the league under values elite kickers like Justin Tucker.
Straight up for Dak.
I’m not exactly sure where Lamar thinks that he will receive this contract. Cleveland’s already taken.
I don’t blame Jackson for wanting guarantees, I really do not. However, the motivation for his wanting those guarantees is the same reason that teams are unwilling to provide. Jackson is coming off an injury laden season, and his style (as well as Baltimore’s recently) opens him up to more contact than most other quarterbacks.
Jackson does a good job avoiding that contact, but it is inevitable that it will occur. Jackson knows that his value could torpedo at any time due to injury, as is the case for any NFL player, and is intelligent enough to understand the effect that this has on his value. Of course, this is exactly why any NFL team has an issue handing him a guaranteed deal. The Ravens actually made Lamar a good offer, and seem committed (or at least were committed, before this process) to him as a starter. Jackson is smart to want what he does. He would be wise to realize that it likely won’t happen, and adjust accordingly. That Ravens offer is still life-changing money.
Lamar looks like he’s pushing things to the limit just as Le’Veon Bell did. It will be interesting to see if he also ends up working at Dairy Queen.
Pretty classless to send that tweet just as Harbaugh was having his presser. Say what you want about the negotiations, but Harbaugh has been Lamar’s biggest advocate and defender, on and off the field. No need to show him up. He could have tweeted this on Sunday or earlier, and other NFL teams would have been OK with it. Do you really think this is a QB who can lead a team to a Super Bowl? Nope.
If Lamar is as good/valuable as he thinks he is then the guaranteed money shouldn’t be an issue. If he produces like he has in the past there isn’t a team in the league that would drop him after the guaranteed part of the deal is up.
The problem for Lamar is that he just isn’t as good as he thinks he is, and the teams that throw stupid money at QB’s have all already done so.
Good, bye bye. There’s the door .
This actually reflects positively on the Ravens, as they were able to keep that trade request under wraps for almost a month. Harbaugh was also very gracious at his owner’s meeting press conference today. As for Lamar, he isn’t worth two firsts in addition to a big money contract, as he hasn’t shown he can stay healthy or win the big game. Baltimore might be able to trade him for one first round pick, but not two.
straight up for RW3
straight up for RW3 #buckem
Hopefully nobody lets him write the contract. It sure wouldn’t hurt if he kept his college tutors on payroll to proof anything he says or types. I guess actually being able to communicate effectively is an over rated skill set.
Hire an agent, dummy.
I give it 24hrs b4 Lamar to Jets trade rumors populate
They already have, but the Jets have already shot them down, which makes sense. They’re building the roster around Aaron Rodgers’ skillset, not Lamar Jackson’s. Also, Lamar would cost at least two first round picks.
Dude is SUCH A PRIMA-DONNA!!! You are NOT all that Lamar! You are already breaking down health wise and you are wanting a fully guaranteed deal? I would not touch this trade with a 10 foot stick (You hear that Detroit Lions?). He will continue to be on the sidelines hurt as his career progresses, so have fun to whomever makes this deal. Props to Baltimore for not bowing down to this kid. Dude is seriously outweighing his self worth! Good luck to the team who wants him, dealing with his mommy agent will be awesome!
As a Steeler fan, all I can hope is that they work things out. I want the Ravens to ruin their salary cap again as they did for Flacco.
Some people are great in their own minds, which is the way it should be, but the proof is in the pudding. Not everyone will agree to take your word for it.
I imagine it’s hard to convince someone you need about $200MM in guaranteed money because you’re running low on pudding.
Maybe if LJ could throw over 3k yard in a season they may pay him but for now he’s a RB Qb who will age quicker then most other QBs and once the legs are gone he’ll end up as a backup.. At best he could get is a 3-4 year guarantee contract and not a year more
I can see how this will go now. Just because of the moronic deal for Watson, Lamar and the NFLPA think a new standard is set.
The rest of the owners, who know the whole Watson thing is going to implode horribly, will refuse to meat Watson’s ridiculous demands. The NFLPA and all the ‘victims’ of the world will say it’s collusion, when it is just 31 owners individually knowing that his request is such that you will never build a SB winning team with him eating up that much cap and costing that many picks.
Why do the NFLPA thinks the Deshaun Watson deal benefits players? That deal just means all the money goes to one player and that the rest of the team is gassed. Balanced pay for QB’s would be about $30 million. Patrick Mahomes was an outlier. He’s about the only one left now, now that Aaron Rodgers is slowly in decline. Peak Rodgers was equal to Mahomes.
Burrow is very good as is Josh Allen but neither are quite in the category of peak Rodgers and current Mahomes.
Making a big deal out of a guaranteed deal is the reason why he isn’t traded.
Its not like this is news, we all knew he wanted out. Not traveling with the team for a playoff game?
Im not sure Lamar is helping himself out. There is a price point where a team is willing, but we didn’t even see an offer sheet.
His style of play + all this baggage makes him a wildcard. Im so glad my team doesn’t need to worry about this non-sense.
Apparently Lamar hasn’t even signed the offer sheet, so there cant be a match from another team.
But he also cant be traded at all until he signs it.
….so back to Lamar impeding his own progress. He is doing so in a few ways.
man the Ravens screwed themselves in this. The closest they ever had as a franchise QB is Joe Flacco. Now you get one of the most (if not the most) electric player in the NFL and it being at the QB position and you don’t know how to take care of him.
The Browns are also responsible for this cluster#@&$. Lamar think the Watson contract is going to be the new norm, when in all actuality it was a outlier. The Browns had to do that for Watson or they would have screwed for the 2022 season and later. After they was trying to get Watson they pissed off Baker Mayfield. Say what you want about Mayfield but he is the only Cleveland Browns QB to win a playoff game in 30years or so. Now he wanted out and Watson turned you down so they had to basically bend over and asked Watson how much?
Lamar isn’t worth $233 guaranteed, and it’s obvious that the other 31 teams in the NFL agree with the Ravens.
Trade him to Toronto
For a RB playing QB, what is his future value when he is injured and can’t run …or simply decides not to run? In addition, Lamar is too naive to hire an agent and too short sighted to even support his team by showing up for a playoff game. Not to mention, suspicions abound regarding the legitimacy of his late season injury. This is clearly not someone teams believe in to be their longterm franchise QB and “leader”.
Have a blast trying to negotiate with this Motley Crew! If it’s not Lamar it’s his mommy, if not mommy it’s his nutritonist? What in the hell? This is a cluster of mega proportions, and it’s just getting weirder by the day. This is a QB that will NEVER play a full season due to injuries. He will continue to count on his legs to get him outta trouble and that’s going to be the thing that stunts his NFL growth more than anything. Good luck teams trying to work this out. And mad props to the Ravens for not giving in. You cannot pay this guy $60M guaranteed and have enough $$$ to get the team around him good enough to compete. Ugh, thank God Holmes is too smart not to involve the Lions olin this drama!
Look for the Patriots to get involved. Read that Robert Kraft received a text from Lamar’s rap buddy saying #8 is interested in New England. Kraft has the cake to make it work and can maneuver around the cap in 23 with a bunch of cap room in 24. Kraft said he doesn’t mind spending $$ if coach Bill wants Lamar. Remember Kraft spent $4 million for The Rolling Stones to perform for 45 minutes for his birthday. Reports were Mac Jones, 1st round in 23, 2nd round in 23 and 2nd in 24 going to Ravens for Lamar and mid round pick. Sounds like a win-win for both teams and Lamar earns his bag and freedom.
Blame it all on him not having an agent and the Brownies going all in and blowing away the market with that sexual deviant Watson.