The franchise tag window opened at 3pm CT today, and while it is unsurprising the Giants have not made a decision, Daniel Jones‘ recent actions could push the team down the path to one soon. Jones has changed agents, and his asking price may well prompt the Giants to tag him.
The $45MM-per-year number has been floated for the former first-round pick. That figure is higher than the Giants want to go; it might be significantly higher. The Giants hoped Jones’ asking price would come in below $40MM AAV, Paul Schwartz of the New York Post notes (video link).
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Jones upped his value considerably this season, a statistically unspectacular campaign but an efficient one that brought improvement from his first three years. A woeful Vikings defense played a part, with Jones accounting for 368 and 379 yards in the Giants’ Week 17 and wild-card round games in Minnesota. Those marked Jones’ highest and second-highest yardage outputs this season; his all-around performance in the rematch led the Giants to their first postseason win in 11 years. The 25-year-old passer is now in strong position, and his recent actions point to him maximizing it.
Regarding negotiations, however, the Giants do not appear to be too far out of the starting blocks. Prior to Jones changing agents, the sides had not officially started talks, Pat Leonard of the New York Daily News notes. Jones’ agent change merely delayed them, per Leonard, who adds this switch looks to have come about because of backchannel word ahead of the official talks. While the $45MM figure has circulated, it has not come up in official negotiations yet. Jones changing agencies does signal these discussions could bring some turbulence, but Leonard expects a deal to be finalized.
With no quarterback tied to a deal between $35MM and $40MM per annum, the latter number has become a line of demarcation of sorts. Dak Prescott and Matthew Stafford are tied to $40MM-per-year pacts. Both have obviously proven more than Jones, though the cap’s growth puts the Duke product in a good spot. Going to $45MM would move Jones past Josh Allen ($43MM per year), even though guarantees provide a better indications of contracts’ value. But the $40MM price range would put Jones in interesting company. A deal between $35-$40MM has been the expected range for Jones for a bit.
After a historically turnover-prone rookie season, Jones submitted two inferior statistical years in 2020 and 2021 — the latter an injury-shortened slate. The Joe Schoen–Brian Daboll regime, then, did not pick up his $22.4MM fifth-year option in May 2022. Despite Jones throwing 15 touchdown passes during the 2022 regular season — nine down from his 13-game rookie year — he finished with the league’s lowest interception rate and piloted a playoff-qualifying season even as various developments depleted the Giants’ pass-catching corps. But Big Blue might be forced to further weaken its skill-position arsenal to keep Jones.
New York still wants to sign both Jones and Saquon Barkley to long-term deals, Jeff Darlington of ESPN.com tweets. The tag is not expected to come out until close to the 3pm deadline on March 7. That is not uncommon; most tag business unfolds close to the March and July deadlines. But Jones will receive the tag if he is not signed by that point. That would put Barkley on track for free agency. The Giants tagging Barkley at $10.1MM would be far less constraining than cuffing Jones at $32.4MM. Big Blue would prefer this path, with a Jones extension producing a cap number low enough it would still allow for some free agency moves.
A Jones tag would not only limit the team’s options with outside free agents, it would cut into funds for a last-ditch Barkley deal. Following the tag deadline, the Giants would have six more days of exclusive Barkley negotiations; the legal tampering period begins March 13. However, the Combine will give the two-time Pro Bowl running back a good indication of what will be out there for him on the market. The team has offered Barkley a deal in the $12.5MM-per-year neighborhood, and it is believed a $14MM-AAV pact could wrap these negotiations. Thus, signing Jones by March 7 will be the best way for the Giants to retain both their offensive cornerstones.
The Titans navigated a similar situation in 2020 by re-signing Ryan Tannehill just before free agency and tagging Derrick Henry, who signed an extension that summer. The next two weeks will be telling for the Giants in their effort to retain their quarterback and running back.
Danny Dimes isn’t worth 20 mil let alone 40-45 mil. Though as a cowboys fan I’d love to see the giants pay him that much. Pay the man big blue!
Cowgirls*
You add so much to the conversation. Now go back under your rock troll
Dak isn’t worth 40 million either. He won’t get 45 million but whatever New gets he’s better than Dak
I agree I wish the cowboys would trade dak. He’s better than Danny Dimes but nowhere worth 40 mil a year
As a Dallas fan you will never win again with Jones as owner and prescott as QB. You will chole for all eternity lol. Stay out of our business. Our front office and coach know what their doing unlike yours!
This is a joke right ? Sorry David Tyree retired and the giants no longer have a top defense. The Rutherford New Jersey Giants wont be relevant long past Jerry Jones passing on and Stephen Jones taking over. The New Jersey Giants… enough said
And hate to break it to you, it’s not “our” business. You have absolutely nothing to do with the team.
NOT a top tier Quarterback. Up to 40 million is very Generous on the Giants part
Very generous? How about foolish.
Jones is a fair-to-good QB. Overpaying him assures he will never have the supporting cast (better receivers and interior lineman) that he needs to succeed.
Better to let him walk than hamstring the franchise with no ability to build a strong roster in the next few seasons.
What a joke. Does the clown realize he was lucky to be picked by another clown Gutterman and not fallen until the 5th round? Then gotten Daboll as a coach. Pure greed. Let’s see the Giants cut him and then let him know what he is worth.
Dak isn’t worth 40 million either. He won’t get 45 million but whatever New gets he’s better than Dak
Wait you really just said Daniel Jones is better than Dak?? You really believe that or you’re just being a homer giants fan?? I agree Dak isn’t worth 40 million but he is so much better than Danny Dimes and it isn’t even close.
He would have been picked at 15 and possibly earlier by Washington. You’re clueless. He’s the best QB in his draft class. Did he earn 45mill? No but he’s a top 10 qb. He needs to make the decision if he wants to be greedy and get paid every penny or come in on a reasonable contract and allow the team to build around him. Hopefully he’s as smart as his Duke education suggests and like Tom Brady chooses to sacrifice some money for championships. He’ll get It in the end. Either way he’s going to have more money than he could spend in his lifetime.
He’s not a top ten QB…
Then you don’t know what you’re watching. Name 10 better. I’ll give you Mahomes,Allen, Burrows Lawrence Herbert. You want to say Lamar as a runner ok DJ is better passer. Honestly after Allen I think it’s splitting hairs between the next 5. Keep in mind they all have tremendous weapons and vastly better OL with the exception of Jackson who also has limited weapons. His line is much better.
I would take Kirk cousins over Danny Dimes and that’s saying a lot. Okay let’s try 10 qbs better
In no order just top 10
1 Allen
2 Herbert
3 Burrows
4 Rodgers
5 Jackson
6 Mahomes
7 Hurts
8 Tua
9 Dak
10 Stafford
That wasn’t even hard to do. Daniel Jones is in the back half of starting qbs
“He’s the best QB in his draft class.”
No, he isn’t. Kyler Murray is, imo. Jones is a better leader, but Murray is a better QB. And Jones is around the 15th best QB in the league. There’s no way he’s top 10. Here’s 12 QBs who are definitely better than Jones, in no particular order:
Burrow
Josh Allen
Herbert
Mahomes
Rodgers
Hurts
Dak
Cousins
Goff
Tua
Deshaun Watson
Lamar Jackson
And you can make an argument that these QBs are better:
Geno (probably needs another successful season before you can say definitively)
Trevor Lawrence (ditto, though more of a lock to repeat his success than Geno, imo)
Kyler Murrary (attitude/injury problems but still better)
Russell Wilson (declining hard but still probably better)
Derek Carr (I could go either way here)
Jimmy G (if he was healthier, this would be a lock)
Matt Stafford (age/injury concerns)
Not counting Brady since he’s retired, but Jones is definitely mid-tier.
Didn’t see your comment before I said mine but well spoken!
haha, same thing. Cheers.
RCT
In the meat of the article you say Murray is better than Jones then in the list you do not list him. I am confused easily done at my age.
I can’t say who is better I watched Jones once this year and tried not to watch Murray but he plays the Hawks twice a year so you grin and bear it or bare it? I am going with bear it because you don’t want this old guy baring anything.
Back on topic I am not sure either team should be bragging about their QB. The Giant fans should hope the FO stays firm and not give that much. I know the desire is to get one generational wealth contract. They also want to protect themselves from career ending injury.
I would go into negotiations maybe say $38 mill a year for 5 years. I would also add an insurance policy that is worth $40 mill for 5 years then 4 and on down. That helps the team and protects him.
I know guys get these policies but not sure about the nuts and bolts with them. If not legal NFL should make it legal but have a cap on how many they have. Make them a bit stingy with them.
“In the meat of the article you say Murray is better than Jones then in the list you do not list him. I am confused easily done at my age.”
I listed him below in the other section (‘you can make an argument that these QBs are better’), but still said he’s better. I do recognize that a lot of people are really down on Murray, especially because of his attitude, but I consider him better than Jones. Better track record, better numbers. But there’s more of an argument for Jones being better than Murray versus, says, Jones versus Josh Allen.
I wouldn’t want him for the league minimum.
Finkel may be Einhorn, but Tannehill is not Jones. This situation is just bad. I don’t envy the Giants.
Here’s my take. Carr is a rough Daniel Jones equivalent with more consistency. Definitely rather have Carr for $35 million/season than Jones for $30 million/season, let alone Jones for $45 million/season.
Curiously the most Derek Carr ever earned for a single season was $25 million. What makes his younger and slightly worse equivalent think he is worth $45 million/season?
Transition tag candidate number one. Save 10% on non-Exclusive Tag and 30% on Exclusive Tag. Maybe someone will take the problem off of the Giants hands and give them two first round draft picks to do so. Sounds like a deal.
The Redskins might be foolish enough to do so unfortunately.
Giants aren’t signing Carr. They want Jones and will have him next season one way or another. Look, it’s good negotiating tactic to come in with a ridiculous high number. It’s a starting point. If he came in at 35 million giants would try to get him at 25-30 million. I’m confident he’s not getting 45 million and will likely be in the 35-48 range. With the cap expected to explode in next few years it will look cheap in a few years if they can lock him in at that price.
Just because you have money doesn’t mean it’s smart to use a good portion of it to sign a middle tier QB for over 35 million a year
Calling him middle tier is generous he has 1 okay season
Paying big bucks to a QB who has no weapons doesn’t make a lot of sense and the Giants were so desperate for wideouts, they took part in the OBJ sweepstakes.
Typical of the Giants — try to bring back a diva who was on the Boat Trip rather than nourish the pass-catchers you already have. Then try to keep a QB who had his 5th-year option deservedly declined.
“than nourish the pass-catchers you already have.”
Such as…? When the Giants were thinking about bringing back OBJ, their number one WR was Richie James. Shepard and Wan’Dale were hurt, Toney was gone, and Kenny Golladay was Kenny Golladay.
They had no one but James and Slayton. And they didn’t bring back OBJ, they pivoted and brought in Hodgins, who was worth it. So I’m not sure what your complaint is.
The only ones who wanted Odell Beckham back on the Giants were the White Male Sports Media and their mouth-breathing audience. Beckham torn his ACL in the previous Super Bowl, thus there was no guarantee he would pass an NFL physical. Especially from his original NFL club.
BTW Isaiah Hodgins wasn’t “brought in”, he was claimed off waivers from Buffalo where he was seldom used. Kadarius Toney diva’d his way off the Giants (and look how that turned out!)
Definitely put him on non exclusive franchise tag. Let him get an offer in that range and come back. If the giants don’t want to pay the number another team will give up 2 1st rounders and pay the contract. Teams won’t risk driving up the price a getting stuck with a player they don’t really want. You’ll get his true value. If he doesn’t get an offer Giants will be in drivers seat.
This is a logical solution for the NJ Giants.
The Giants are clearly over-valuing both Jones and Barkley. They are nothing special – one because he hasn’t really shown NFL ability when he plays good teams and the other because he cannot stay healthy enough to demonstrate his talent on a consistent basis.
The Giants have not made any moves yet, so how are they overvaluing either one?
1312 rushing yards and 10 touchdowns isnt special? Barkley is a top tier running back, if you’re going to knock him on health then have you to knock another top rb down too CMC
I don’t believe anyone doubts Barkley’s ability.
The best ability is availability.
History has shown that Barkley has a tough time staying out of the trainer’s room.
Giants really about to give a guy they were going to walk away from 40m a year after an average season?
This whole debate is laughable, the guy doesn’t even play well enough to garner a nickname.
Danny Dimes?
Dude is 25 mill TOPS.
18M tops with incentives.