The Ravens earned a last-minute, come-from-behind victory over the Broncos Sunday afternoon, but the main talking point in the aftermath of the game is the health of their starting quarterback. Lamar Jackson exited the contest after taking a hit in the first quarter, and did not return.
Jackson’s absence was caused by a knee injury, and it remains unclear at this point how much time he will miss as a result of it. When speaking to reporters after the game, head coach John Harbaugh said that Jackson’s recovery timeline would be a matter of “days or weeks,” meaning that it is not expected to be season-ending. Ian Rapoport of NFL Network tweets that the 25-year-old is believed to have suffered a knee sprain.
While more will be known in the coming days after further tests, an absence of any length would of course be massive for Baltimore. Jackson has remained the focal point of the Ravens’ offense in 2022, a season in which top wideout Rashod Bateman has suffered a season-ending foot injury, All-Pro left tackle Ronnie Stanley has been limited to six games with lingering ankle issues, and the team has had a resultant inability to find a rhythm in the passing game. On the ground, the two-time Pro Bowler has paced the team with 755 rushing yards entering Week 13 – 363 more than the next-leading rusher.
From a financial standpoint, this injury could loom large. Jackson is scheduled to hit free agency at the end of the year, after he and the Ravens could not reach an agreement on a long-term deal. A franchise tag is widely expected to be used if the same holds true in the coming months, but a lengthy absence – coupled with the Louisville alum’s inconsistent performances this year – could hurt Jackson’s leverage in future negotiations.
In Jackson’s absence, the Ravens turned to backup Tyler Huntley under center. The former UDFA made four starts to close out the 2021 campaign, after Jackson was sidelined by an ankle injury. He went 1-3 in that span, putting up middling passing numbers along the way. His rushing ability (6.3 yards per carry, two touchdowns), however, demonstrated his likeness to Jackson from a skillset perspective, something which could ease another transition to him as the starter if that proves necessary.
With the 10-9 win, the Ravens moved to 8-4 on the season and will retain their lead in the AFC North for at least one more week. Their prospects moving forward, however, could take a substantial hit depending on developments in the coming days.
If he can learn to stay in the pocket and be an actual QB and not be an idiot by acting like a RB he might stay healthy! But then again he is an idiot
He was literally injured in the pocket you dope
You also don’t know that the wear and tear of always running causes him contrition, which lead to his injuries in the pocket. I’m guessing you didn’t consider that, before you called someone an idiot for making a point that running QB’s get injured more often. Which is a fact. They also rarely ever win super bowls. All retired great players and analysis always point out how running QB’s rarely if ever get deep in the playoffs. You’d have to go back to Steve Young to find one that won a SB and even then he was a great passer and HOF’er. Maybe if you wanna count Russell Wilson’s rookie season but we all know he won that SB because of the defense.
Ah yes, only running backs and idiots run. Is Josh Allen also an idiot for running when he’s been banged up? And as jdgoat pointed out, he WAS in the pocket.
Totally different animals
You’re not accounting for contrition of running all the time. That wear and tear could very reasonably and realistically have contributed to the injuries he incurred to his knee. Running a lot and getting tackled as runner making sharp cuts clearly puts stress on your knees. So we also have to factor that into the equation.
He won’t because he is not. Running is the key to this QB. HE CANT THROW THE BALL.
Well, all caps are always irrefutable.
That’s what makes him dangerous. Same with Josh Allen. I know Allen is bigger but Allen actually tries to take on hits
And this idea that bigger QBs get hurt less doesn’t stand up to much scrutiny.
So on this thread, you’re sympathetic to QB’s when they get hurt. But over on the Niners/Jimmy G article thread, you’re sneering because it’s your belief he’s susceptible to injury, even when a 280 pound lineman falls on his foot, causing a break
Yeah. Ok
Where did I sneer? The one that just posted? I feel bad for the guy and the team. Earlier today I pointed out that people were engaging in revisionist history acting like the Niners should have expected Jimmy G to have his second fully healthy season ever. I obviously wasn’t rooting for him to get hurt, let alone expecting it to happen today. If I sneered at anything, it wasn’t Jimmy G himself. I like the guy. I wish he had better health luck.
Understood. Apologies then. Just seemed in the effort to tell that group “I told you so,” it came off a little callous. That’s two QB’s who are done for the season over there
Understood. Rest assured, if I take anything close to pleasure in a guy getting hurt, it would only be one who did some pretty messed up stuff. Injuries are the worst part of football and I hate them. My comment in the other thread was more like “Yikes, what rotten luck for the team, the guy, and people who like watching football.”
Jimmy has been injured a ton in his career. He’s earned the injury prone designation. That’s a totally fair assessment.
Ankles are weird like that. It’s really a genetic thing. Some guys can roll their ankles a million times and not sustain ligament damage. Others cannot. Clearly Jimmy is not blessed with the genes to sustain the wear and tear of a full football season on his body. Despite his obvious talent.
I was just stating that Allen is bigger because I figured people would use that excuse as for why it is ok for him to run so much. Players get hurt and in Jackson’s case both of his injuries have come while he was in the pocket
Allen seems to be a generational talent that plays through injuries and doesn’t often get tackled at his knees and ankles. He’s also way more accurate than Lamar, and also a totally different style runner. You have to actually watch the NFL games to understand what you’re commenting on.
Yeah, he’s a style of runner who takes way more contact than Jackson. He also has a lower completion percentage and identical interception percentage for his career. Don’t get me wrong, I’d rather have Allen and think he’s a better QB, but the degree to which people on here trash Jackson and the reasons they give are ridiculously overblown. (And I do worry about Allen. Sometimes he looks hell bent on toughing his way into serious injury.)
Fair. But I bet those stats are different since Allen got Diggs. Before Diggs he had no one at WR or TE to throw to. Not that LaMar has had amazing weapons either, but just watching them both play a lot it’s clever that Allen is a way better passer.
Not arguing that last part. And Diggs’ arrival did coincide with Allen’s breakout, though his and Jackson’s %s I cited have been pretty similar since. I give a lot of that credit to Allen’s development, but it sure makes you wonder what Jackson could do with one great receiver, rather than his best option always being more of a safety outlet in Andrews.
If the %’s are similar which I’ll take your word for, what about the yards per attempt?
Even so, Allen is just a better passer. I’m not a football coach but I always hear the analysts say Lamar’s mechanics are bad. Either way, he was crazy for not taking that contract offer. Especially when he’s a running QB which we all know makes him more susceptible to injury and/or early decline. He got greedy and it’s more than likely going to cost him a lot of money. It’ll be interesting to see what cl react he ends up getting and it’ll also be interesting to see how Huntley does if he misses time. If there’s not a huge drop off in QB play, it’s also going to hurt Lamar’s contract
Again, I do think Allen is a better passer, and I assume his targets are deeper (I don’t have time to dig in more now). The absence of receiver talent for Jackson has been brutal, not that that covers everything. I don’t know how much I buy the idea that running QBs are innately hurt more and lacking longevity. A good number of mobile QBs (McNabb, McNair, Cunningham) have had success into their 30s, and plenty of traditional QBs have been felled early. Still, I’m not sure what he was thinking contract-wise. Not that we know anything about the process for sure. This is not a leaky organization. They managed to get a first rounder for Hollywood without the public knowing he had ever demanded a trade.
Those dudes you mentioned all stopped running by the time they got into their 30’s. McNair was finished at 33 he didn’t even play a full age 34 season, McNabb was done at 33 basically although he went to WAS for two years and was horrible and Cunningham was a pocket passer when he had his resurgence in MIN and he had a prime Moss and Carter to throw to. So even mentioning those guys would support my statement that the throwing QB either gets hurt or has an eerily decline. They also never win super bowls, unless they’re Steve Young.
They all had time to grow as passers while their legs could help pay the way. And we’re going to see a lot more mobile QBs win Super Bowls. Russell Wilson and Mahomes already have, even if neither was as run dominant as Jackson.
Mobile and running QB I think are two different things. I’d put Maholmes into the mobile category for sure. But running isn’t his greatest strength of course. Right now Lamar’s greatest strength is his running, not his passing. We both know Wilson and Malhomes didn’t win the SB because of their legs.
Also, look at Wilson now. Another example of a QB who ran a lot losing his prime early.
In fairness, I don’t think this year’s Denver team is exactly a control group for anything.
That might be fair. But Russ has been bad, there’s no question. It was reported on this site that a lot of Seattle’s front office already viewed him as being in decline. But anyways man, I appreciate the friendly back and forth. I look forward to talking more sports with you in the future
Yeah, Allen runs like a running back. Jackson goes down on one tackle where Allen takes on multiple tacklers. Bruising running backs generally have shorter careers than running backs that try to avoid contact.
You can’t leave out Hurts
Ravens riding with Snoop for now and counting on him to lead the team next week against Steelers. Tough blow for Lamar getting hurt both years while in the pocket taking sacks.
Liked how Huntley completed passes to multiple targets/receivers. Refreshing.
Their O-coordinator is busy interviewing for college jobs. The front office does less to help Lamar than GB does for Rodgers. It’s all falling apart in Baltimore. By their own design.
Ravens still hold the tie-breaker on Cincinnati for the AFC North. As long as Baltimore does it with defense and the ground game, they’ll be alright.
I don’t really want to defend DeCosta but what more should he be doing for a QB that keeps stalling on making a long term commitment?
That’s a good point
Greed can be man’s greatest downfall. He rejected that huge extension, and now he’s not looking like he’s even worth that. He had something like 9 TD’s his first 3 games and has had something like 8 in his last 7 or 8. That, on top of this injury will make his next contract very interesting. He probably won’t get a similar offer than the one he turned down. Maybe he’ll do what’s common in baseball and take a one year deal to try and re-establish himself and then go for the big one.
My main point is that I think it’s becoming very evident that he made a huge mistake. That’s what you get for being so greedy. Especially when you’re a running QB with questionable pocket presence and accuracy. Being a running QB puts you especially at injury risk. So to turn down 200+ mil or whatever it was, is just plain stupid and reckless. There’s no doubt this had to run through his and many people minds even before this injury. Sucks for you LaMar.
I’ve always had trouble understanding why it’s perfectly fine for owners to be greedy but not players.
Who told you any form of greed is fine? Certainly no religion or ethnics studies.
It’s not inherently wrong to be a business owner. A lot of these guys worked hard to be where they are.
Someone has to own these franchises. Don’t they pay the players very well? The NBA is to the point where the players make half the money the league generates.
But when you play a high injury risk sport and are offered generational wealth to play that sport and you turn it down … that’s pure stupidity. Or greed. And sure enough, Lamar has not performed well enough at all to justify turning that offer down, and now this injury puts it in further jeopardy. He could have signed that deal and his family would have been rich for 5 generations at least. What does that bad greedy decision have to do with the owners? Wasn’t it the owner who offered him and his family that cache of riches?
It’s also a salary cap sport, so it’s not necessarily greed when the owners can’t go above a certain umber to sign a player. That’s also not even always an owner decision. It’s a front office move. And isn’t a former player Ozzie Newsome a huge part of that Baltimore front office?
Not sure what your point was cross eyed lemon.
My point is that fans love condemning the star players for seeking market setting deals, but truth be told, if you or I had their talent, we would be doing the same thing.
I don’t do that and I would have taken the generational wealth for my family. You are generalizing players. Not every player is like that.
How do you feel about those poor owners that have taxpayers build new stadiums? Isn’t that the same form of greed you talk about?
They don’t always get the taxpayers to build them. Cities only do that when it makes financial sense for the city and will generate revenue for the city. Think about how many employees it takes to run a stadium and franchise and also how much retail tax they generate from all the sales and paychecks for everything. But what do the owners have to do with anything? An owner offered Lamar 200+ mil to play football and the dude turned it down. Now he’s having a mediocre season and has a potentially bad knee injury.
He bet on himself. Mayfield did the same thing. You talked about greed. Greed is all around you, not just Lamar Jackson
I agree with you 100%
I only brought it up about Lamar because as soon as I saw this injury I thought about that contract he turned down. I’m sure it went through many peoples head when he got hurt, including his. He absolutely bet on himself but when you’re up that much, I believe you leave the casino. I thought at the time he rejected that offer if was a bad decision. We’ll see how it pans out.