The Dolphins could complete a trade for Deshaun Watson as soon as this week, according to John McClain of the Houston Chronicle. The deadline isn’t until November 2nd, but the Dolphins are aiming to land the quarterback even sooner.
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There’s been conflicting word on the Dolphins’ level of interest in Watson, but owner Stephen Ross seems willing to bring the embattled QB to South Beach. Meanwhile, the ‘Fins have an increased sense of urgency after dropping their fifth straight game to the previously winless Jaguars.
So far, Texans GM Nick Caserio has warded off suitors with a skyhigh asking price — three first-rounders and two second-round picks (or, two starting-caliber players). He’s also been unwilling to accept conditional choices tied to Watson’s availability, but it’s possible that he’ll bend in order to stock up for the 2022 draft and move on from the Watson mess.
Watson has a no-trade clause, but he’d happily accept a trade to Miami. The Saints have also been rumored as a dark horse candidate for Watson, but they don’t seem as motivated as the Dolphins.
If the deal goes down, Watson will have an opportunity to face his former club on November 7th.
Dolphins don’t play in south beach. They play in Miami Gardens. At least a half hour away.
Semantics.
No, reality. South beach is a separate place.
South gardens beach Miami you mean, clearly your not a local
Judging by the way that you spell “you’re”, I can tell that you are a local.
baseballfan I don’t care who you are your comment was FUNNY.
You’re
Wow, what a huge difference. The article just made no sense without your clarification. Thank god you were here to clear it up for us.
Watson could always live in South Beach and work in Miami Gardens.
or he can open up his own shop and operate it, have his own franchise.
This is how people get forgived, by going to a different team.. What a world we live in..
The women of Florida should start buying pepper spray now.
Robert Kraft sending a case of pepper spray to all of his favorite massage salons in FL.
Even if he gets traded, there is nooooo way Goodell lets him play this year
If suspended by the emailed reading joke of an NFL front office, I’m pretty sure that criminally stupid and corrupt clown Goodell must accept an appeal. if Watson appeals, all the “paid touching” he did will be dealt with in 2022. it’s all madness.
If suspended by the email obsessed joke of an NFL front office, I’m pretty sure that criminally stupid and corrupt clown Goodell must accept an appeal. if Watson appeals, all the “paid touching” he did will be dealt with in 2022. it’s all madness.
That’s what some thought of Richard Sherman and didn’t face any discipline.
Why oh why are the Dolphins STILL considering mortgaging a large part of their future for a guy that may not even play for quite a while? Why not move on, work with what you’ve got this year and look to try again in the draft in ‘22??
I guess Hou lost the right moment to deal (in Whitney case too.. You know you are in rebuilding mode and below average talented roster.. Why don’t deal him in time?.. Very good 3-4 olb are always in demand)
I just can’t see a team giving up good assets for a guy when his trial is still ahead of him. I guess you have to be ballsy and hope he’s allowed to play at some point but unless the Texans are desperate to get rid of him I can’t see giving up anything close to what the Texans have been rumored to be asking for.
The owner wants him. When owners get involved stupid trades/signings happen.
I highly doubt that the Dolphins end up on the winning side of this trade-Watson is nearly certain to end up on the Exempt List at the very least when his trial(s) is over. This is true regardless of the outcome.
The Texans also said that they weren’t interested in Tagovailoa, at least initially-does he start over Davis Mills and/or Tyrod Taylor? I think that’s doubtful, especially considering that Tu’a would be learning his third offensive system in Houston with new coaches and players. He doesn’t have the experience and body of plays to fall back on like a suddenly traded veteran would, and missing that early practice time as a rookie with his injury already put him behind the curve to become starting quarterback. If he’s traded, he probably sits, barring injuries.
The question really is whether the Texans want to keep Tu’a next year or after. Do they see him as a backup? Do they see him as a piece to flip for more picks? Could they think that he could be a franchise quarterback with their changes? Or do they just dump him entirely? I think that’s a more variable question than what happens with Watson-Miami will inevitably have to accept that Watson will sit. They’ll probably have to sign someone else to start in the meantime (that could be interesting as a question-Goff? Bortles? Jones? Lock? Garappolo?) But what happens with Tu’a-what does Houston decide is the best way to get value from him?
They want Tua, it’s a risk-free deal with massive upside potential. Lying is the thing coaches and GMs are hired to do.
I don’t know, I don’t think they do. At least not as a substitute for other picks. They have a short term starter right now in Taylor and a developmental rookie in Mills. If they thought that they could get Tu’a as part of a Watson trade (which was rumored earlier, albeit at a higher price) I don’t think they would have rolled will they Mills. I think they’d have made the trade sooner.
There may be a third team now who could be involved in taking Tu’a that could have changed things that wasn’t there before. If so, it would have to be a team who has lost confidence in its current QB situation or had an injury that changed it.
I think that would be the Lions, or possibly even Seattle as a wild card. Of course, the Seattle possibility would be reliant on the Seahawks seriously considering letting Wilson go after his injury, given his offseason frustrations. Detroit really makes more sense to me. There is a new regime that has been frustrated with Goff, who clearly is not their starter for the next five years. They know they’re in a rebuild, and as such will likely be willing to be patient with Tu’a. Given that they’re likely to have their pick of the next crop of QBs, however, this may not be likely. Lastly, I think New Orleans may be a sort of dark horse here, given that their record is likely going to be good enough to not take high end rookie, the cap will likely be a concern for them, and Payton would rather not tank the season for a QB. The last possibility is Washington, for obvious reasons, and they seem to want to win instead of tanking for a new QB.
prediction (I want to happen)
Watson to Miami for 2 firsts, a 2nd and a 5th (Appeal accepted, will start week 8)
Jimmy G to Houston for said 2nd
Niners get their 2nd pick and eat the salary.
Tua? Well, he stays a backup in MIA.
USA USA USA
This is minor to your larger points here, but Davis Mills is terrible. I get that he’s a rookie, but his one good game against the Pats is masking how terrible he is. I can’t imagine the Texans would start him over Tua.
Yeah, he’s not done well, but I don’t see how this year’s Texans could produce much anyhow. The entire coaching staff just feels temporary, like when the Cardinals hired Steve Wilks.
I don’t think that the Texans think that they get much more from Tu’a learning the offense midseason than they have now from Davis Mills for a few games. With Mills as a long term starter? Yeah, I’d agree, I’d personally give Tu’a a shot. But I think Houston sees Mills as just a backup and they want something more than Tu’a to replace Watson long term. Just how I read from the outside as, admittedly, a know-nothing fan.
Right. Maybe they see this season as a loss (which it is) and view Mills as a potential long-term backup and want to get him some reps. But if they do acquire Tua, they should play him. He’s better, plus he needs development and they’d need to see if he’s really a #1 QB. They’re going to have a top 5 pick and would have a decision to make as far as drafting one.
Amazing that this team was one of the best teams in the league just a little over a year ago.
AK185 –
When did Tua start using a ‘ in the middle of his first name? Guess I missed that one
For some reason that’s how I thought he spelled it. I looked it up and I didn’t see anything along those lines, so I must be wrong. Sorry about that. In Samoan or Hawaiian type names, the pronunciation emphasizes certain sounds while pronouncing every letter, so I thought that was the way to write it. I thought I saw it spelled that way early on at Alabama, so I started doing that way because it emphasizes the pronunciation.
Rct, if I were Houston, I’d play him too. Whether they personally like him or not, they’re unloading Watson and likely future cap space (not sure what they’re on the hook for) for a few good picks. If they get a former first round QB, they may as well use him instead of holding their nose in the air. But, if they can get another good pick from another team for him, I think they’ll certainly do it. If not though, I agree-I think they should do the trade and play what they get.
If Watson is traded then put on the commish list, he & the team could clearly state that the league had months, plus 6 weeks into the season to put him on the list. It would be an interesting court argument.
I can’t imagine that Goodell is bound by any rule that states he must add players to the list within a specified time frame. “Ongoing investigation” is a handy catch phrase that gives Goodell plenty of wiggle room to do pretty much as he pleases.
Oh I agree. But it would be hard to defend not putting Watson on commish list while he was a healthy scratch then saying ‘now is the time for example…’. after a trade.
Goodell should have handled this before preseason & didn’t. Watson & the next team should exploit it.
The cost of acquiring Watson is extremely high and he carries a ton of baggage. I think the teams that decided to solve their QB problem by other means made the smart decision.
Also said Dolphins would be the best place for him.
Tua Taglovialoa, Xavien Howard, a first and a third for Deshaun Watson and Vernon Hargreaves.
Texans get their replacement QB in Tua who gets a chance to show his worth while Taylor is out.
They also get a top top CB in Howard who will pair well with Reid and Johnson in the backfield.
Then you get the picks to address other areas.
For the Dolphins you get a huge upgrade at QB and while he’s currently away with off field issues you have Brissett. You give up a star CB but Hargreaves is a veteran that should be capable to fill in plus you have former first round pick Igbinoghene and McCourty also.
Texans reportedly don’t want Tua. It’ll be a three team trade, and x Howard won’t be part of it.
Simmons>Russ –
If the accusations are true, prison would be the best place for him. Not Miami. Not anywhere else
Add in all fantasy leagues
Dolphins can’t draft at all so moving picks for Watson would be smart, even with his situation. They are about to lose a top 5 pick this year just to have Waddle over Smith.
If Miami trades for Watson, I’m done with the organization. I’d rather root for the Lions.
That can be arranged.
They need new coaches and Offensive Line not a different quarterback.
The Dolphins don’t need a QB who is possibly facing a Suspension from the NFL & possible prison time. Chris Grier knows he screwed the pooch when they drafted Tua Tagovailoa instead of Justin Herbert. Now if they trade for Watson they’ll be screwing the pooch again because of the legal issue’s he’s wrapped up in & it would be a panic move by Grier
Mind-boggling that anyone would consider giving up assets for Watson when his status both for this season and beyond is entirely up in the air. Goodell can just exempt him instantly and no one would protest.
If this happens, the Dolphins are the dumbest, most clueless, idiotic franchise in all of professional sports. I’m not going to predict the outcome of this case or his guilt or innocence, but HOW do you justify mortgaging your future for a guy who very well end up doing prison time? You are going to have protesters lined up and down the streets, women’s rights groups rioting and marching, losing sponsors left and right, and nothing but distractions to the rest of the team.
Absolutely stupid. Idiotic. The Dolphins deserve every bit of what comes of this. I’m simply disgusted that an NFL franchise could be so careless and shortsighted. They must have information that the rest of the world doesn’t, because there is absolutely no explanation for their actions otherwise. Pathetic
You’re using logic. We don’t do that stuff in the NFL anymore. It’s mob rule and politics now. With that said, he will pay fines, he will be suspended, Texas will be done with it (because the women are paid and settle out of court) and the NFL will do PR jive and blame us for touching those girls. And we will have to apologize and watch commercials about how perverted we are. Meanwhile, Watson will go 10-7 in 2022.
I agree with you, KCJ. The Dolphins it seems have completely turned around in the last two off seasons from a team with a promising future to one that seems to be making strange and random moves (the Kyle Van Noy cut, for instance, or the Fitzpatrick-Tua flip flop, or the 1st spent on Igbinoghene after signing Jones, the strange O-line moves, or letting Godchaux walk). I didn’t expect to get perplexed by them so quickly.
Sigh, I remember last year when being a Dolphins fan wasn’t the saddest thing in sports. Ahh well, back to what I’ve been used to the past 30 years.
The Texans likely aren’t going to get their asking price, but their front office is looking at the 2021 Miami train wreck and realizes the value of Miami’s draft picks has been increasing with each and every week.
Miami though? Really?
2nd worse place for Watson to get his life back on track, behind Las Vegas.
Why not consider Las Ve