93% of the NFL’s players have been vaccinated, as the league’s chief medical officer, Allen Sills, recently stated (Twitter link via Mark Maske of the Washington Post). That is a sizable increase from the last update we received back in July, when 68% of players were said to have been vaccinated.
Although teams cannot officially punish or cut players for failing to get the vaccine, the NFL has done everything in its power to convince its workforce to do so. For instance, vaccinated players have only been required to get a COVID test once every two weeks, while unvaccinated players have to get tested every day. Also, vaccinated players are only forced to miss time if they test positive, and even then, they can return after two negative tests taken 24 hours part. Unvaccinated players, meanwhile, are required to stay away for at least 10 days if they test positive, five days if they are a close contact of someone who tested positive, and five days if they miss a test.
The Delta variant has caused some problems among a few clubs, but the high vaccination rate has helped limit those issues to “clusters” as opposed to true outbreaks (Twitter link via Maske). Still, the league will continue to see positive tests in vaccinated players, just as society as a whole is experiencing. In light of that, the NFL is willing to test vaccinated players every week instead of every two weeks, as Judy Battista of NFL.com tweets. The union is continuing to push for daily testing, which the NFL eventually conceded to in 2020.
The NFLPA has thus far resisted the league’s attempts to compel players to get the vaccine, and though union president J.C. Tretter claimed that the NFL never requested such a mandate, the league adamantly refutes that claim, per Charean Williams of Pro Football Talk. While we wait to see if the league and union ultimately come together on that issue, the league has dangled yet another carrot for the vaccine holdouts.
As Mike Florio of Pro Football Talk writes, regardless of whether the league increases testing frequency for vaccinated players to once a week, only unvaccinated players will be required to submit to game-day testing. So if an unvaccinated player tests positive on game day, they will miss at least that game — probably more, as they will be forced to sit out for 10 days — and any unvaccinated close contacts will miss the game as well.
With teams required to slash their roster sizes from 80 to 53 players by 4pm ET on Tuesday, you can be sure that any unvaccinated bubble players will be at a greater risk of being cut.
But if unvaccinated players get cut it shows they exercised their right to not get the vaccine.
I know the goal is 100%, but I’m pretty impressed by 93%, especially when you compare it to the general population. Number will go up, too, because I’m sure some more players will get it and also, some who haven’t will be released. And maybe Cole Beasley will retire so he can tweet full time, which is what he apparently wants to do with his life.
How about you stop hating on people that make their own decisions? I don’t need a mouth piece like you to tell me what I can or can’t do with my body.
What was that all about?
No idea. The anti-vax crowd is super sensitive and will cry about things at the drop of a hat.
lmao, think you replied to the wrong person, bud. Though it’s hard to tell since you post non-stop trolling garbage across all of the trade rumors sites.
@rct might want to look up what being a troll is bud (I.e. it’s what you do by constantly attacking anti-Vaxers)
Judging by the thousands on forums with complications from 1st or 2nd dose you’d better hope the same outcome doesn’t happen to you.
My boss got both shots and now can’t feel his arms and has trouble walking, also another family friend lost ability to close her left eye after first jab. Bottomline is you can’t tell anyone else what to do, just focus on you.
I get what you’re saying Tatsumaki, but rct wasn’t trying to push on people like some people have been. Cut him some slack. I agree with you about choice, but he wasn’t saying all that.
Happy to hear you are Pro-choice, Democratic voter!
You do not own peoples bodies.
I invite you to actually read the post you’re replying to. Give it a shot.
This guy is pro choice!
It’s nice to see all of these Pro-choice democratic voters sticking up for the non-vaxxers.
Cool. Is the nfl going to test vaccinated players daily? They can still catch and spread covid. So idk why the NFL is only currently testing just vaccinated players every 14 days according to Justin Pugh.
Daily is overkill. I could see once a week as reasonable for vaccinated players
Daily might be overkill, but why not multiple times a week? Testing takes two seconds. Once the day after the game, maybe another mid-week, and another the day before the game. Or cut out the mid-week one. Weekly or every 14 days seems like not enough considering travel and how many people are coming and going.
Should be every other day.
Tuesday Thursday Saturday.
Players should be tested day before game.
“Staunch anti-mask “freedom fighter” Caleb Wallace, who demanded “end of Covid tyranny” has died at age 30. He self treated himself with ivermectin. He had proclaimed #COVID19 is “perfectly fine to live with.” He leaves behind 3 kids & a pregnant wife.”
Luckily it doesn’t affect young people and there are miracle cures available.
Believing lies like this isn’t a crime. Spreading them…
While I get your point, the bullying and blatantly cajoling non-vaxxers isn’t going to convince them any faster. Let them the freedom of making the decision themselves. You use negative reinforcement and they’ll just dig in their heels, like Cole Beasley or DeAndre Hopkins.
I’m blaming the people who lied to them, how is that “bullying or blatantly cajoling” them?
The people who have been lying to them are now dying, this seems like valuable info for one to ponder.
People have the right to chose. They have the right to decide what to put into there body. If they don’t want to get vaccinated, that’s there right. People shouldn’t be bullied for expressing these rights.
And when these people catch Covid, and many many will , do not allow them into hospitals and to take up valuable ICU beds that others need and deserve more so. They made there choice. Which is there right.
So should we also deny hospital beds to smokers/vapers? 2nd hand smoke is deadly and they made their choice after all.
What about obese people? People with aids/hiv?
Should we deny hospital beds to anyone who has made personal choices that correlate to health?
Your talking about things that may kill you. Might. And not necessarily quickly either. It’s a stupid comparison.
ICU’s beds are not currently 97% filled with people suffering from 2nd hand smoke, smokers, vapors, obesity, aids/hiv.
Try being realistic instead of showing off your narrow views
@bigjonliljon missed the mark by miles. Judging by death rates and who’s likely at risk the anti-Vaxers will be fine. If you not over 65, fat or have respiratory issues prior the virus has shown a fairly low rate of death something along the lines of less than 1 percent of all cases. Also have several family members and friends that have gotten 1 or both shots and are worse off than had they not gotten the shot.
Covid has a 99% survival rate, even before vaccines.
Majority of covid deaths have underlying health conditions such as obesity, high blood pressure, diabetes, and other pre existing conditions. Covid attacks the lungs, which, if youre a smoker, your lungs aren’t in the best of shape to handle a respiratory infection……underlying health conditions that are self inflicted can increase risk of severe illness from covid…..
Also, flu seasons always put pressure on hospital beds. 2017-2018 flu season was classified as a “high severity”.
Seems pretty irrational to suddenly care about covid and beds when you didn’t care about flu/cold and beds previous years.
Happy to see Pro-choice folks speaking out!
They are not just living with their decision, they tend to spread disinformation. Stop telling people to stop pushing back.
Let people make there own choices.
I want to go on record supporting any and all choices people make to do stupid things that kill them AND ONLY THEM. 100%.
Want to ride an ATV on a mountain or a motorcycle without a helmet? Go for it.
Think seat belts are denying you freedom, the freedom to soar like a bald eagle through the windshield? Go for it.
Want to eat horse dewormer? Go for it.
It’s when you think you have the freedom to take others with you that I get concerned.
Well, you posted a whole bit about an anti-vaxxer dying and implied that the same awaits anyone who doesn’t do it. If you didn’t want to imply that, then you shouldn’t have posted it here. I agree with you that the vaccine is beneficial, but your choice of posting is blatantly manipulative. Let me be clear. I disagree with the methods employed by people to shame or shock others into agreement, in any context. It’s not effective, and it’s patronizing. Your drunk driving question is not as deep and nuanced as you think, either. We all know where that’s going and it’s just off-topic and too different. So I’m not going to engage in it.
Sure, it’s a big issue. Sure, a lot of people-not all, but a lot-are distrustful of the vaccine because of blatant disinformation and/or political pressure. But we cannot continue to decide for others what is right for them (or, even better, belittle them and bully them into doing what we want) and expect them to change their minds. We are much too comfortable doing that now anyway and it’s contributing to the partisan atmosphere that has entirely consumed this country.
The NFL, for instance, has made a big show of telling players that it is their choice to get vaccinated, and go way beyond what it is necessary in implementing special restrictions on unvaccinated players. They’re more punishing them for not getting vaccinated than they are protecting anyone else. How do we know? Well, because the special restrictions are much, much, much harsher than the original restrictions last year, are more aimed at individual players, and rely on a peer pressure campaign to get numbers up. Of course, the NFL could care less about how the health or rights of the players are affected, but availability is a concern. I actually get that. They’re just going too far and being hypocritical in claiming that it’s a choice while they single out and coerce players who make a choice that they don’t want. Is it really a choice in that scenario?
Those players, like Beasley, Hopkins, Newton, or Cousins, aren’t just misinformed. They’re informed, it’s been long enough. They’ve made their decision. The NFL continuing to punish them for it is just going to make them dig in their heels more. Not everyone responds to bullying and peer pressure by accepting the flow. A lot of them get more determined not to. Instead of pushing shame and vitriol, it’s more effective to respect them and in all likelihood, you’ll get more to change their minds that way. It has to be their decision, one that they make, not one they’re forced into doing.
Doubt you were concerned previous years during cold and flu season.
If you want to live in fear that’s your choice. Stay home. Don’t go out.
Vaccines are proving less effective against delta
Israel, I think, just said people who were considered vaccinated aren’t vaccinated cause there’s a 3rd shot now.
Vaccinated people can catch and spread covid
Vaccinated people are showing similar if not higher viral loads of covid, especially compared to original covid.
Pfizer/ Bio N Tech submitted fda approval after changing their vaccine to get it fda approved.
Vaccine makers arent liable if you have complications from the vaccine.
Remember when Biden promised no more masks if ppl got Vaccinated? Pulled the rug out from under peoples feet on that real fast.
The least vaccinated are minorities. So any forced vaccine mandates impact them the most.
There’s many reasons to be hesitant about the government pushing this vaccine.
Remember when the numbers went down after people started getting vaccinated! I could hardly believe it! Who knew science worked?!
Serious question…
Should drunk driving be legal? Why or why not?
No one will answer this…and it’s not because it’s off topic…
There is no way to answer that drunk driving should be illegal without undercutting the various anti-mask and anti-vaccine requirement talking points.
And no one is willing to say drunk driving is illegal.
So no one ever answers, which is itself, the answer.
It’s off topic.
Drunk driving:
Person made the decision to drink
Person made the decision to drive
Only happens if you drink before you drive. Your drinking doesn’t affect sober drivers and make them drunk.
Covid:
Person didn’t make the decision to get infected. People who wore masks, social distanced, followed guidelines still got infected. University of Louisville recently published findings masks didn’t slow the spread of covid.
Person didn’t make the decision to spread it. Theyre not testing vaccinated people like they are unvaccinated. Asymptomatic or mild symptoms, esp vax, people rarely get tested; Justin Pugh recently blasted the nfl cause he went untested, had covid, no idea who he got it from or who he gave it to, fully vaccinated.
Covid infects unvaccinated and vaccinated alike. Vaccinated have similar if not higher viral loads.
Unvaccinated and vaccinated can spread covid as well.
Drunk driving (preventable) isn’t as comparable to covid (spreadable from Vax and unvax) as you think.
I’m not reading all the word vomit…
Yes or no, should drunk driving be illegal?
Come on, dude. You ask a hypothetical off-topic question, demand an answer, and then refuse to read it? Seriously? Why should anyone take your questions seriously and answer them at all if you refuse to read what they wrote? That’s low, yes or no?
You avoiding serves the same purpose as you not answering it…so, it’s all good.
Had I asked whether we should seize and crush the cars of anyone who bought a beer, that would also be off topic, but people would have gladly answered to say GTFO.
Should drunk driving be illegal?
Say yes and admit that the “freedoms” can be curtailed in the interest in public safety.
Say no and well, I don’t need to explain why this would make the person who says no look bad, right?
The analogy to public Covid policy is obvious, so because of that no will answer this very basic question that would, in a different context, illicit a quick “of course” in most circumstances. But, it’s actually a very basic stand alone question.
Should drunk driving be illegal*?
*This is not a “hypothetical” question, just FYI.
Vaccine mandates aren’t in the interest of public safely. Theyre in the interest of big pharmaceutical companies who’ve profited off this. Seriously go look at the earnings of Pfizer, Moderna, and the rest pre and post covid.
Me getting vaccinated doesn’t make your vaccine work better. Me not getting vaccinated doesn’t make your vaccine work worse.
Kids are already at severely low risk of covid 0-19. So vaccine mandates aren’t in their interest either.
If you want to spend your life being classified as undervaccinated that’s your choice.
If you want to take experimental drugs and be a guinea pig go for it.
Covid isn’t going away. Vaccines won’t eradicate it. Like the cold and flu covid has animal reservoirs. The reason small pox, polio, and measles vaccine worked is because those viruses don’t spread to animals.
Covid isn’t going away. Hospitals are routinely hit hard during flu season. It’s nothing new.
Isn’t it nice when you can AVOID reading an answer on the topic at hand and then accuse someone of AVOIDING a mostly unrelated argument on a tangental subject that you make all by yourself? Jesus, dude. This is going nowhere, especially if you reserve the right to make your own circular arguments using your own logical progressions about drunk driving in some effort to apply the transitive property to situations where variables are the not the same.
You keep drifting further and further from the point, which is this: IT’S MORE EFFECTIVE TO CONVINCE PEOPLE WHEN YOU DON’T PATRONIZE THEM. We can argue the relative merits of vaccination all day-and I think you’ll find that I for one would agree with more pro-vaccination arguments than I do anti-vaccination ones. But I also know that people must make their decisions and when I’m starting to intrude. So keep asking rhetorical, smug questions about something else in an effort to appear two steps ahead. We all knew where your drunk driving analogy was supposed to go. We disagree with you as to how comparable it is. The variables are different, as Faith in the Padres pointed out. My issue with you here is that you’re continuing to ignore that point I and many others societally and here are making-the all caps statement above-and instead talk about something else and it’s not working. We’ll talk about COVID, you talk about drunk driving.
The silence says it all.
If the questions were as irrelevant and unrelated as you say, you wouldn’t be so afraid to answer the easy one.
As I said, a non answer was an answer. Thanks.
So vaccine passports are in the interest of public safety
But outright banning alcohol, outright banning cigarettes and vaping, forcing mandated meds, surgery, and/or exercise for obesity…….that’s too far? Lmao
Like I said. Theyre not in the interest of public safety. As hard as you want to convince yourself the government is your friend and has your best interest at heart they are in fact not your friend and you are just a money sign to them.
Vaccine passports aren’t in the interest of public safety. They didnt care about vitamin d, exercise, etc as ways to prevent severe illness….cause there was no money to be made.
You got played and now you’ll spend your life being treated as undervaccinated. Congrats you played yourself.
Now here’s a question for you.
Do you know why vaccines eradicated measles, small pox, polio but not common cold, flu, and won’t eradicate covid?
There is an answer. Has nothing to do with people being unvaccinated either. You could have 100% vaccinated and it won’t eradicate cold, flu, or covid.
No idea who that guy is so I Google it.
Is this him in the picture?
link to conchovalleyhomepage.com
If it is once again underlying health conditions strike again.
So…are you saying that people with underlying health conditions should try to not get Covid?
Nope.
I’m saying if you’re going to prevent unvaccinated people from going to hospitals like bigjonliljon implied you might as well prevent vaccinated people who get covid that have underlying health conditions that are self inflicted such as obesity, diabetes, smoking, aids/hiv etc etc who get super sick.
Have you noticed those pushing covid mandates and vaccines have done the absolute worse job educating people on self care?
You’d think knowing majority of people dealing with covid have vitamin d deficiency they’d be pushing vitamin d.
You’d think knowing majority of deaths having underlying health conditions they’d push for people to go outside, get exercise to help with obesity, high blood pressure etc etc instead of stay home stay, inside, lock the doors, don’t look at the sun, also good source of vitamin d.
You’d think it’d be common sense to not put sick people in nursing homes and expose high risk elderly people….apparently it wasn’t common sense for the govenors in CA PA NY NJ and MI.
You’d think they’d tell people hey the test we used is faulty. Not recommend changing cycle testing 10 months later and tell people the test they’ve used majority of the time is faulty- doesn’t differentiate between flu and covid and caused a decent amount of false positives.
@forwhomjoshbelltolled, you got to be an idiot to believe a bait story like that.
It’s not even true, they’re just looking for a scapegoat to say, “See, this is why you need to be vaccinated! He died because he isn’t vaccinated and he took Horse Paste! SO THERE! TAKE THE JAB OR ELSE!”
I bet he’s a nobody they handpicked out of a directory and ran a sham story, or he’s a “person” that’s on the thispersondoesnotexist website.
Exactly, everything you dislike is just simply not real.
Enjoy your horse paste.
Congrats on the 93% which puts them over the top of “herd immunity”…
Impressive
Who F’n cares?