The Dolphins are hoping to acquire the Lions’ No. 3 choice and package it with their own No. 5 for the Bengals’ first overall pick, Mike Florio of PFT hears. The Lions have told the Dolphins that they won’t give up the No. 3 pick without the No. 5 pick in the package, but Miami GM Chris Grier seems to think they can be swayed.
Of course, even if Grier can swing that deal with Detroit, he still has to convince the Bengals to part with the No. 1 pick and pass on Joe Burrow. The Bengals say that’s not happening. So far, the Bengals have laughed off every offer, but it’s hard to imagine them hanging up on a team offering two Top-5 picks. At minimum, it’s something that they’d have to consider.
Burrow, by all accounts, is the Bengals’ favorite QB by a mile. But, with Nos. 3 and 5, they could tap their second-favorite passer and one of this year’s elite tackles. Tua Tagovailoa and Justin Herbert would likely be available for them with the third pick. Then, they’d probably have at least three of this year’s top four tackles, if not the whole bunch, available to them. Tua/Herbert + Jedrick Wills/Tristan Wirfs/Andrew Thomas/Mekhi Becton would be a pretty excellent haul by any measure.
It remains to be seen what else Miami would have to give up in order to convince Cincinnati to forego the right to draft Burrow, and one wonders if the team’s No. 18 or No. 26 selections — at least one of which would presumably have to go to Detroit in this scenario — would also be in play. For a rebuilding outfit that has a lot of needs to fill and that has spent a long time stockpiling premium draft capital, that would be an exceedingly steep price to pay.
On the other hand, franchise QBs don’t grow on trees, and not only does Burrow have limitless potential, he has fewer red flags than Tua and Herbert. Though he may have benefited from LSU’s stacked roster in 2019, his otherworldly Heisman-winning campaign, which featured a 76.3% completion rate, 5,671 passing yards, and 60 passing TDs, make Burrow a tantalizing prospect.
If a team knew that a player would turn out to be Peyton Manning, Tom Brady, etc., that team would have no issues trading away its entire draft haul in a given year to draft such a player, regardless of how rich that haul might be. And while no prospect is really a sure thing, if the Dolphins are convinced that Burrow is a future Hall-of-Famer — and they seem pretty sure — then it would be hard to fault them for swinging this kind of deal (at least not until a couple years have passed).
Miami hasn’t been able to make any progress on talks yet, but deadlines spur action, and the NFL Draft is just hours away.
Rory Parks contributed to this post.
Your not getting 3 without giving up 5
What could Miami possibly give up to get the 3 pick without giving up the 5? It would have be the rest of their draft this year and the next 2 years first round picks, why Miami’s gm is confident Detroit can be swayed is baffling, but the price you would have to pay to do it would be even more baffling
Because it’s Detroit. It’s the Lions. It’s Bob freaking Quinn. That’s why.
If mia offered the 18th, 26th, next year’s first, which could be top 10, and other mid round picks Detroit would be dumb not to take the deal. The 26th pick would especially be important because teams always look to trade back into the 1st round netting Detroit even more picks this year and next year.
Redskins aren’t passing on young. Simmons, the tackles, Tua and Herbert certainly arent worth 3 1sts and other picks.
Detroit can keep the pick, take a corner or Simmons, and miss out on setting themselves up for years to come in the draft.
You’re forgetting that Matt Patricia is over there now, they’ll take 8 6th round picks and then trade them all for starting caliber linebackers you’ve never heard of who also play special teams and tight end/fullback in a pinch
Miami has 2 other 1st rounders so if they offer that plus a little more it would probably get it done
Source?
Mike Florio, who’s wanted Burrow to go anywhere but Cincinnati all offseason
Update: Dolphins offer five future first rounders, Albert Wilson, Tropicana Field, two live alligators and one of those cool swamp boats with the big fan for Bengal’s Number 1 pick.
I’d say yes just got a swamp boat tbh
Low ball offer. If they can’t open with 3 alligators, what’s the point in wasting the time?
This thread is just hysterical!!
Rude
Florio knows nothing
That would be a horrible trade. No. 3 and No. 5 for No. 1 I would keep both 3 and 5 and get two players
NO ONE knows anything at this point.
They can do all the homework they want, but one of the three QBs will be great, one will bust, and the other will be so so.
There isn’t a soul on earth who knows the answer at this point.
If I’m Cincy and get offered 3, 5, and an additional 1st or 2nd I would say yes. Tua and Herbert have both been highly touted longer than Herbert. You can go get one of them, and add a top receiver, or OT. You will also have another pick possibly to fill another area of need.
If Miami is willing to offer all of that to avoid having to draft Tua or Herbert then that should tell you what their consensus is on the QB market. Miami was an awful team as well last year, with many holes to fill yet they’re willing to jettison multiple assets to move up to 3, then offering multiple additional assets to move up to 1. That’s a damning indictment and tells you the Bengals are smart to stay with Burrow
What starting players could Miami offer from their roster that Detroit would covet? Package of player(s), 18 and/or 26 could get it done.
CB Xavier Howard would be the only possibility.
Miami could offer Taco Charlton, Josh Rosen, and 18 for 3.
I don’t think the Lions would value those two plus the 18th to give up the third pick. Both were castoffs and didn’t show much last year, at least not enough to make up the difference. I think the 18th plus other early round picks would be much more valuable to Detroit.
This is a good day not to read all this “news” from Beat Writers. Most of their “scoops” are just made up Shinola so they look like they’re in the loop or it’s a purposeful misdirect by the teams.
From Detroit’s mindset you also have to think: do they feel like their jobs are on the line this season? If so, I don’t think they’d try and trade back too far and aim to get picks for next year.
If Miami offers their entire draft this year…AND next year, then you think about it.
I think everyone places too much importance on draft order. What is far, far more important is how well a franchise is run. The superbly run organizations are going to find talent with their top picks and find an occasional gem in the late rounds and with UDFAs. Conversely, the dreadfully run organizations (yes you Miami) are going to shoot themselves in the foot year after year, regardless of how many golden opportunities they are presented with in the draft.
And here I was thinking that Manning had one hellava 5-head….
All – I’m a Bengal fan- I have watched owner Mike Brown operate for years. They are not trading the pick even if Miami offered their entire roster. Let’s put it to rest already. Burrow is a Bengal
I’m a bit surprised your not enjoying all this drama. How often do the Bengals actually garner any interest around the league (when criminal charges aren’t involved)? This is probably the best thing to happen to Cincinnati since the Ickey Shuffle.
Ok, I admit I got a bit carried away with that last part.
A very clever and not at all dated slam on the Bengals and arrested players. How is 2009 treating you? 2020 sucks so just giving you fair warning about something called COVID
I’m obviously not expert about draft trades, but how the hell would the Dolphins be able to acquire the 3rd overall pick without giving up the 5th?
Free lifetime passes to Seaquarium and the promise that Jim Carrey with never make a Pet Detective movie in your town.
Lmao