DEC. 15: Jay Glazer of FOX Sports obtained the much-ballyhooed video, and as Paul Dehner Jr. of The Athletic tweets, it does indeed contain extended (read: not accidental) footage of the Bengals’ sideline. The video also includes interaction between the Bengals and Patriots staffs, and as Mike Florio of Pro Football Talk notes, when the Bengals confronted the Patriots, the Patriots rep said, “I can delete this right here for you.” The Bengals rep then said, “the damage is done.” Florio believes that dialogue supports New England’s position that the taping of Cincinnati’s sidelines was inadvertent, while skeptics will argue that the Pats were caught red-handed and were just trying to save face.
DEC. 14: It seems like the Patriots aren’t going to be exonerated of wrongdoing by the league for the videotaping incident that dominated headlines this past week. For a full primer on the scandal, click here.
The NFL is “likely to penalize” New England, sources tell Mark Maske of the Washington Post. Maske writes that the league office is “contemplating disciplinary measures in line with those imposed on teams in recent seasons for infractions of game-day rules.” As for the type of punishment, he writes that it could “mean a fine in the hundreds of thousands of dollars and potentially the loss or reduction in value of a draft choice, typically a lower-level pick.” Likewise, Jason La Canfora of CBS Sports hears that the team is facing “significant punishment,” which is likely to include the loss of at least one draft pick, heavy fines, and the possibility of a suspension for a member of upper management and/or ownership.
Maske highlights a number of incidents that sources indicated could serve as precedents. The Giants were fined $150K back in 2016 for using walkie-talkies on the sideline, and the Falcons were fined $350K for artificially adding crowd noise in 2015. One source told him that the NFL has been “consistent on game-day violations,” and that will likely continue here. Fortunately for the Pats, Maske writes that Bill Belichick and individual members of the organization aren’t being targeted for potential punishments.
While Roger Goodell had previously said that the Patriots’ history with illegal videotaping would be taken into account, Maske writes that neither Belichick nor anybody else are being “viewed as repeat offenders.” He adds that the penalties aren’t set in stone yet, and deliberations in the league office will resume on Sunday.
The league is apparently hoping for a resolution as soon as possible, so we should know more shortly. All things considered, it doesn’t seem like they’re going to be cracking down too hard or hitting the Patriots with anything too severe. The organization likely wouldn’t lose much sleep over a fine, although obviously a potential draft pick sanction would be much more significant. Notably, Atlanta was docked a fifth-round pick in 2016 for the incident that Maske says is being used as a comparison.
This is ridiculous. How many times can the Pats get caught cheating yet they just repeatedly give them a slam on the wrist.
Yea the pats need to cheat to beat the bengals get a grip dude.
Yet they did.
Bullshit pats by 40 this week.
Even if they win by 40, they’re still damned pathetic for having to cheat to get those points.
Pats by 40 because they cheated. There only way out of this is to lose
They’re up 3 at halftime and don’t look too hit. So much for them winning by 40. Just another idiot Pats fan.
Typical Pats fan
No not typical. I bash the team when they deserve it. In this case they don’t. And pats are going to destroy the bengals blindfolded. If they had done it against a real team like the last few weeks teams I may have agreed that there was potentially bad behavior. I honestly think this one was just a stupid camera crew. But hey if other teams need to make excuses so they can live with their teams mediocrity enjoy that.
No, you’re typical: loudmouth idiot.
Not a fan of either … rules are rules, who’s playing is irrelevant, punishment is warranted
Bingo.
well it seems they still.cheated even tho they didn’t need to inorder to win . so maybe they cheated for another reason but they still cheated . no way u watch the sidlines for a quarter and not the guy ur filming by accident
if you read the penalties mentioned in the article, its clear that these leagues never bring the hammer down on anyone for cheating. 150 and 350 K are all pretty meager prices to pay, and the Pats will be reprimanded in kind, like they always are.
yup the hammer needs to be brought down but it won’t . it’s clear they cheated yet again n they will just get off with a crap fine . this is y they keep cheating. if they bring the hammer down hard it would stop . I’m talking fine them 10 20 mil , take their 1,2 rd draft picks for 2 yrs , suspend all those in the line to the guy filming for 6 games and see if they do it again if they do double the above.
it would make em think twice at the very least.
Seriously, the Patriots do not need help to beat the Bungels
Doesn’t matter, they broke the rule. And they are repeat offenders. I would take away 3 first round picks. Put an end to this now.
And Nixon didn’t need to break into the Watergate. Yet he did.
If the pats are that good, then why to they constantly have to cheat and break the rules? What have they gotten away with that we don’t know about?
The Pats don’t need secret info to beat the Bengals.
And Kraft was really getting a legit massage at the parlor…
He is an adult n able to do as he wants to pay for. So what if he did, who cares cept the haters.
Right? What’s the big deal? Just supporting a little sex trafficking.
What’s a little human trafficking, amirght.
Yet they cheat anyway. Likely cheated against other teams, this is just when they got caught
I think Atlanta as a base and being a repeat offender, a 3rd or 4th rounder and 400-500k fine sounds about right.
The lost a 1st when they hot caught doing the same thing the first time.
I recon ain’t no cheating going on here. Nothing but a video for Kraft Sports Productions. Can’t punish Belichick for something he wasn’t even aware of. Settle down haters. It’s gonna be Ok.
The NFLs position is simply ridiculous. Try to gain an advantage and you risk being penalized. Don’t try to gain an advantage and your accused of tanking and risk being penalized. Maybe Goodell should just arrange to have all games end in a tie.
Suuuuurrrrreeeee, recording the sideline for entire quarter is totally innocent.
That is the lamest take ever!
Same as with Astros: fold the franchise, distribute their players to other teams, fire and blacklist everybody in front office and burn their stadium to the ground. Time to stop the cheating.
clearly, with the punishments they hand out and their lack prevention methods, these leagues dont care too much about these infractions. when it comes down to it, the only reason the Stros are taking as much heat as they are here is because they won while using the camera, and there is less of a precendent in the MLB. consider how bad using a camera is to more devious methods like blackmailing or bribing opposing players, planting false stories about oppsoing stars, etc. additionally, consider how the league probably treats this better than the Black Sox Scandal, where there was intent to detriment one’s team, which id argue is much more repulsive to the fans and damaging to the reputation of the league as a whole. the camera is a clear violation, dont get me wrong, but the punishment will fit the crime, and chances are said punishment wolnt be nearly as crazy as people thing.
Governments cheat. Calm down guy.
Burning down our government would be an improvement, too.
just out of curiosity, are you condoning cheating?
No that would be the Yankees for that camera in center field using the YES network. Oh some people forgot about that. Lot a dam cheating going on.
Pats need to cheat to beat the bengals….guess they’re desperate. Here’s a hint pats. The QB sucks, the RB is their best weapon and their defense couldn’t stop a pee wee team from scoring. Not sure why you needed to cheat for that info.
Bill Belicheck is the best coach ever.
Just like Bernie Madoff is the best investor ever.
Either a very lame troll attempt or you just aren’t very smart
Educate me, then.
What part of that analogy is wrong?
BB got the rings. Madoff got the money.
Only the ends matter, not the means.
What is the problem? The two GOATS.
With how the patriots offense has looked lately I’m guessing that on tape the bengals defense posed major problems for them. They clearly cheated.
If you ain’t cheating you ain’t trying. Dudes back in the day would spray their jersey with cooking grease, duct tape jerseys to pads, use their casts to whack OL in the head, icey hot on their fingers and rub it in dudes eyes in the pile.
That just scratches the surface. The front office people engaged in all kinds of crazy shenanigans during the player signing war between the AFL and NFL during the 1960s.
A happy ending for everyone!
Based on how many times the Pats have been caught cheating… can you guys imagine how many times they have ACTUALLY cheated?
Anything less than losing their entire draft is a joke. They are repeat offenders. They should get a playoff ban too
Just another example of NFL hypocrisy. They weren’t too concerned about one team gaining an unfair advantage over another when they created the “tuck rule” out of thin air.
Lol wasn’t “created out of thing air” lol
Provide one example of the “tuck rule” being enforced prior to that game.
Week 2, 2001. Patriots vs. Jets. Jets qb Vinny Testaverde’s fumble was overturned to an incompletion. The refs cited the tuck rule.
The super bowls they have won need an * beside each one because how many times did they cheat and didn’t get caught ?
What scum
Name all the times they cheats and won a super bowl? Tuck rule wasn’t cheating
This is absolutely ridiculous. Does anyone seeing this objectively really believe the patriots would try and cheat when facing a team that is 1-12? For once I truly believe this was a misunderstanding but Roger Goodelle has always hated New England and that is why they will be getting penalized. You can see the look of hatred on his face when he hast to hand them the Lumbardy trophy. Had this been done against Baltimore, Kansas City, San Francisco, New Orleans or even Green Bay I would be inclined to say that they were trying to cheat but not against Cincinnati. This is just the commissioner and his all out hatred for New England and the fact they have become a dynasty.
As much as most pats fan would love for this to be a “misunderstanding” it won’t because they were caught filming maybe portions of the Bengals sideline
“Does anyone seeing this objectively really believe the patriots would try and cheat when facing a team that is 1-12?”
There’s *video evidence*. This ‘They didn’t need to, therefore they definitely didn’t’ defense is crazy stupid. How many crimes *need* to happen?
Does anyone think the Patriots wouldnt cheat if they thought they could get away with it?
Anyone who doesn’t know Bill will do everything he can to win every game doesn’t know anything about the team.
Fining the Falcons and Giants a combined $500k is worthless. That’s like fining me $5. What’s the point?
I think Pats fans are probably right here in saying they don’t need to “cheat” to beat the Bengals. However, that misses the whole entire point. They’re being fined for breaking a rule about filming. Not cheating. And they did break that rule. Punishment seems warranted.
Correct. As a pats fan they broke a rule and will get punished. Mr.kraft deserves the blame on this one
They broke a rule about filming again so they could cheat again.
Assumging they didn’t cheat just because the videographer used the exact excuses the guys were told to use last time is pretty trying really hard to spin this into something minor when it is not.
Agreed – the Independent contractor filming for the show should have been informed that they needed to report not only to the home team (Browns – did that) but also the NFL and the Bengals. That obviously didn’t happen. This should be a fine.
The pats really need to be stripped on all Super Bowls won under Bill
Idiot
well that’s interesting
Well I’m glad the Patriots didn’t need help in this game. It’s 13-10 at the half.
Florio is such a liar.
Goodell fines, punishes the Pats, slams Kraft, takes a pick, cash, then…………
Patriots get pissed off to hell, scorch earth burn all the way to Miami!