The Dolphins and Cardinals are nearing a trade that would send 2018 first-rounder Josh Rosen from the desert to South Beach, per Pro Football Talk (via Twitter). PFT says that the deal, which may be tentatively complete, would see the Dolphins send tonight’s No. 48 overall pick to the Cards.
However, Mike Garafolo of the NFL Network tweets that the No. 48 pick is a little rich for Miami’s blood, so the Fins may ask the Cards to kick in some later-round compensation to balance the scales, and Ian Rapoport of NFL.com (via Adam Beasley of the Miami Herald on Twitter) says that a trade is not close. Albert Breer of TheMMQB agrees with Rapoport, saying that a deal is not done but that the lines of communication are definitely open (Twitter link). The two sides are expected to talk again this afternoon.
Meanwhile, Armando Salguero of the Miami Herald (on Twitter) hears the Dolphins would not give up their No. 48 pick for the QB, which seems to indicate that A. The deal is far from done and B. The Dolphins may be willing to walk if a deal cannot be agreed upon soon.
Initially, the Cardinals asked for a first-round pick, which the Dolphins declined. Miami brass had a third- or fourth-round pick in mind for the 2018 No. 10 overall selection, Josina Anderson of ESPN.com tweets. Talks are expected to resume, but Anderson notes the teams are still fairly far apart.
If the trade is completed, it would end one of the more interesting journeys for a first-round QB in recent memory. Everyone in the league seemed to know that Arizona, which traded up in the first round to select Rosen last year, was willing to deal the UCLA product as soon as Kyler Murray declared for this year’s draft. The Cardinals did the expected and made Murray the No. 1 overall pick last night, and we learned today that Arizona GM Steve Keim began shopping Rosen in earnest only minutes before the draft began, so he may have played this one incorrectly.
On the other hand, recouping a second-round pick for Rosen would still be a decent salvage job, as Rosen and Murray cannot feasibly coexist on the Cardinals’ roster, and since several clubs that could have been Rosen suitors selected collegiate passers last night, Keim does not have a ton of leverage at the moment.
From the Dolphins’ perspective, the rebuilding outfit would get a QB with a first-round pedigree who has some flaws and who is coming off a disappointing rookie campaign, but who has a franchise-caliber arm and size. Plus, as Jason Fitzgerald of OverTheCap.com tweets, the Cardinals have already paid 65% of Rosen’s rookie contract.
In that sense, it’s a low-risk move for the Dolphins with a potentially high reward. If Rosen — who would presumably compete with Ryan Fitzpatrick for the starting job in 2019 — lives up to his draft status, Miami’s rebuild would be accelerated and it could address a different need with its early draft picks in 2020. If he doesn’t, then the Dolphins will not be much worse off than they are now.
Hopefully for nothing more than a 3rd rounder. Cards have lost all leverage here. We gotta capitalize on that.
Going back in time I see
Being a Jets fan, this is good news. Always thought Rosen was overrated and so far he’s proved that. Don’t expect him to be any good so glad we’ll be playing him twice a year.
Buddy, you’re a Jets fan. Might want to sit this one out.
Ha!
Coming from the team that rosters Sam Darnold. Pot meet kettle.
Darnold has a brighter future and was already better than Rosen in their rookie years. Don’t be the blind ignorant idiot you’re acting like.
Blind ignorant idiot you say? Sam Darnold was 28th in QBR, 32nd in rating and completion %, 23rd in yards, 24th in TDs, and 3rd most in INTs. No one was saying Darnold is better than Rosen, but Darnold was not good last year. He may have a great career, or he may be another one in a long line of USC QBs who didn’t amount to anything. All I was pointing out is the hypocrisy of your comment. Maybe you should educate yourself before getting salty and puffing your chest up on the Internet because someone disagrees with you.
Based on what we saw last year, I think it’s too early to say who will be better
For reals they both sucked equally
You do realize Rosen completely outplayed Darnold the last time they played against each other even with a weaker supporting cast around him right?
Passing yds 421 vs 264
TD/INT 3/1 vs 0/1
and a QBR of 144.7
Being a fan of a team that doesn’t regularly play vs any of those 3 teams (ARI, NYJ or MIA), I much rather have Rosen than Darnold or Kyler Murray.
As a Pats fan, I’m excited to see Rosen, Allen & Darnold as the future competition in the AFC East.
Same Mack83 id love to see Rosen Allen and Darnold run into the Patriots
Buddy, you’re a Jets fan. Might want to sit this one out.
As a fan of a team that’s set at QB, I dont get why more teams wouldnt be jumping on this. I’d easily go as high as a 2 for Rosen seeing as he was my 2nd highest QB last year
Good move for Miami.
Smart move. Give a 2nd get a 4th or 5th back?
Seems like a lateral move from Tannehill.
What if next year Rosen is in the exact same position with Miami wanting Tua in the draft
If Miami is in a position to take Tua next year, then Rosen performed poorly and his chances of being a starter go down the toilet
Don’t play the “what if” game. I like what the Dolphins are at least trying to do. They would have taken Rosen last year with their first pick and sat Rosen anyway. They ended up getting a top DB and are now in position to get Rosen at a discounted rate with some experience. If you expect greatness in MIA next year, don’t, but I’d take Rosen with a second round pick over Finley etc. If they can get some return or get Rosen for cheaper than a second rounder; all the better!
Not sure why the Cardinals are in a rush to move Rosen. Could start him next year and let Murray learn for a year and hope that Rosen performs well enough to land then a better pick in next year’s draft. No need to rush… it’s not like they’re going anywhere.
If the cost is #48, they’re better off tanking for Tua.
Get it done – even if Arizona has to send a 6th or 7th round pick.
Was hoping Miami would try and get Taylor or Ford by trading up in the second round. Really hope they don’t give up their second for Rosen. I feel the Cardinals out played themselves by not trading Rosen before/during first round which allowed teams like the Giants/Redskins get a QB which takes fewer teams out of the race lowering the price even more for Rosen. Maybe they can work out a deal with the Cardinals for Rosen and #33 for their second, third, and a pick next season to get the deal done.